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if that is the decision the just pick up and leave, load up the trucks and carriers and bounce, asap...who cares? Our solidier arent dying for political reasons...i.e. nation building becase we broke their country and we feel we need to make it better.
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That Iraqis have power and running water where they never have before? That some have a voice that never have before?
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but we are making backwards progess in these areas....the big military they told us was up and running and has been disbanded...the cops are killing the citizens. Those people with the new found voice are promoting civil war so their tribe will be on top...we learned the hard way that we cannot undo thousands of years tradition by giving them water, electricity and dish network...they do not want what we want to give them.
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Do you want us to just wash our hands of this and have them fall into a full blown civil war (some say they already are) and watch more innocents die?
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are they americans dying? if not then yes..what will be..will be
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Do you think the region would be better off without our presence there?
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you are missing the point...that region is not our responsibility.
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Maybe we should just cut the country and 3 and put Shites, Sunnis and Kurds in there seperate "states". Oh wait THEY don't want that because no one can agree who is getting the better deal.
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you nailed it...that is the only solution...but even then they cannot come to an agreement...that war is thousands of years old...we are not going to change that...what we need to do is keep them from effecting our lives..
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I don't want more American deaths and I don't want anyone there against thier will. I want people to research and get all the facts, not just the lopsided view they get in the papers.
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you are preaching to the choir...do a quick search of my posts in this sub-forum
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Bush may be an idiot but he isn't the one making decisions, those are made long before he "gives approval"
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that may be true but in the end it is his responsibility...he can get rid of those making decisions....and it's time for him to do that...and i do vote