[Degsy]

I'm not going to spend hours quoting, replying, quoting, replying. I'll just say this.

I am not saying there is not a problem.

It's not an american problem. Every country in the developed world has an immigration problem.

Whether you like it or not, the USA cannot say "Leave us alone, stay out of our country and we'll just take care of ourselves", then pick and choose where they want to send their armed forces and where they want to "police" next. The USA is part of the United Nations, NATO, IMF and whatever other world organizations that are there to protect and preserve the rights of EVERYONE. The cost of illegal immigration in this country is a piss in the pacific compared to the weekly wasteful spending on defense (before you go off, I'm not saying don't spend on defense, just think about how much is needlessly spent on it). Actually, does anyone know how many US soldiers are anchor babies and become citizens during their service? Quite a few. I don't know how many, but there re some.

How much do you think the Mexican nation spends on THEIR space program each year?

This country has one of the highest standards of living in the world, despite the illegal immigration problem. And always will have.

There is one reason and one reason only that illegals come to the USA. For a better life. The problem is with the system, not with the immigrants.

I am ASKING that you keep your arguments to the facts and your personal opinions, not just post link after link to right-wing bullshit websites that skew the facts and/or just make shit up.

Oh, and the people who you are talking about who brag that they scam this and scam that. It is your duty to report them. By the way, there are a fair number of american citizens who scam welfare and healthcare (and motorcycle insurance, just for moto content) too.

Ryan, my rant wasn't directed at you. I just chose this particular 'send them all back' thread to vent my anger at the misinformation out there.

derek