[Pittenger5]

For the most part, yes, I agree Degsy. But as I mentioned i work in the paint industry, and deal with a lot of contractors who have to quit because they cant compete with the companies that hire 20 brazillians and can get a job done in 1 day as opposed to 3-4 people that require a few more days. Is it their fault they need to pay their bills and make a living? They are willing to do the work, they just cant win jobs for multiple reasons. Im sure theres plenty of examples like that, thats just one I know first hand.