[richw]

Solid fuel is good exercise

I put a coal stove in my last house. It ran about 40% the cost of oil at the time/ per BTU. You could load it and it ran along for up to 12 hours

Good news there are about 50 new "clean" coal burning electric plants under construction oooppss the carbon tax will kill them but better then burning gas.

MY honest fear is that amateur hour will bring on a more disastrous turn of the economy then another one. Even Hillary would move more cautiously.

If you all fear the future then change brings it on faster.

I still may look into passive solar hot water business.... against electric hot water it saves its current cost.