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    Harsh editorial

    Interested in hearing opinions on this one...

    http://cyclenews.com/articles/editor...rial-chicanery

    Editorial: Chicanery

    When racing just isn't fun anymore

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    By: Henny Ray Abrams
    Article Comments MORE IN EDITORIALS >> Fun Or Funereal?

    To catalog the multitude of transgressions perpetrated by the new AMA Pro Racing on the road-race paddock would be futile. The list is long and varied and constantly growing. But if there's one thing they've done that's inexcusable, other than laying waste to their own credibility, it's that they've taken the fun out of racing.

    Very few people get rich racing motorcycles. The hours are brutal, the physical demands are demanding, the return on investment is minimal. People race motorcycles, people work on racing motorcycles, people support motorcycle racing, because it's their passion, because they love it, because it's fun. But if Daytona didn't convince you, the evidence was stark at Fontana - this just isn't fun anymore.

    The atmosphere in the AMA road-race paddock is funereal. The central topic of conversation isn't racing, but what's wrong with racing and how much worse it's going to get. Because, make no mistake, it continues to get worse.

    That part of the Fontana weekend not spent recounting the AMA's innumerable sins from Daytona - did you know that race control didn't authorize the red flag that caused the debacle during the 200, but that it was a rogue element in the chicane? - was spent lamenting the current situation and the future.

    On Saturday afternoon, AMA PR made the decision to move the SuperSport race from Sunday, when it was expected to rain, to Saturday. Had they said it was because of rain, that would have been an admission that they didn't want young riders racing on a track that's barely tolerable in the dry to one that's lethal in the wet. So instead, AMA PR issued a press release in which AMA Pro president Roger Edmondson was quoted as saying, "The only class that does not have provisions for rain tires this weekend is AMA Pro SuperSport, presented by Shoei, so the decision was made to run their feature at the end of today's schedule."

    Completely false. Not a shred of truth to it. Dunlop, the control-tire supplier, had a truck full of rain tires for all classes and at least 200 for SuperSport. That should have been enough, since each rider gets two wet fronts and two wet rears. Did I mention there were only seven riders in the SuperSport race? Given the size of the field, they could have held eight wet SuperSport races before the supply became an issue.

    Was Edmondson ill-served by a minion who provided him with bad information? We don't know. But if there was any question, it would have been prudent to ask the question before throwing one of his partners under the tire truck. And if AMA PR is willing to treat a company that's paying a substantial sum of money like that, what hope is there for the rest of the paddock?

    At the end of the weekend, Monster Attack Kawasaki's Jamie Hacking reportedly dropped a few f-bombs while making a less-than-graceful exit from the press room. For that, and for his behavior at the postrace news conference, he was suspended indefinitely. Press rooms aren't for the faint of heart, and the atmosphere would be monastic if cursing was prohibited. Hacking will miss the next round of the series at Road Atlanta, which will almost certainly guarantee that a Buell will be leading the championship. If you can't beat 'em, ban 'em. It isn't enough that they've designed a class where one machine is twice as large as the rest, has the greatest list of special allowances, and can weigh the same as the twins? Now they have to put the toughest competition, a multiple-time champion, in the docket.

    Now Kawasaki has a decision to make. With Roger Lee Hayden out, is there any reason for them to drive cross country to the next round at Road Atlanta with just Leandro Mercado confirmed? Of course not. So the fans at Road Atlanta are punished by AMA PR and are denied the chance to see a successful son of the South, one less of a dwindling galaxy of stars.

    Rockstar Makita Suzuki's Mat Mladin and four others were put on probation for missing a mandatory autograph session. The next time may mean a suspension. Knowing Mladin, he may make himself the test case. And why not?

    What have they given to the teams or riders that helps them do their jobs? Nothing. Why should Mladin or anyone else be obligated to have to be somewhere? This is a one-way street, with money flowing south. Until they start treating the paddock like partners and not serfs, they don't deserve the respect of the riders. Had they come in amicably and offered to work together, the paddock would have responded. Instead, it's all about 'you're going to do this, you're going to do that, you're not going to do this, you're not going to do that. What? You don't like it? Tough s--t. There's the door and leave.'

    Who would benefit from Mladin's absence? Definitely not the fans, who wouldn't get to see the greatest racer in the history of American Superbike racing.

    One team owner predicted: "Suzuki will try and make Mat do the right thing so it doesn't look bad in the eyes of the public. They're not doing anything for us but taking and making our jobs more difficult to do. And not paving a good road to go to the future. I don't see them improving anything in the future. They're not helping us; why should we help them?"

    The promoters, as much as anyone, deserve better. They're trying to sell a damaged commodity in a dismal economy with far too many restrictions. For instance, tracks are only allowed to give out trophies to the race winner. Second and third place get medals - the winner does also. Tommy Hayden's medal fell off its ribbon on Sunday. One winner leaned over to another and said, "I used to get these in WERA."

    It's one more example of the monomaniacal compulsion to change every single aspect of motorcycle racing, to take something that's unique and mold it into the shape of some other series for no good reason. The pace car - in Fontana, it was a lumbering four-door that clearly wasn't made to go around corners - should be banned. What happened when the pace car came out for the mandatory three laps in Sunday's SportBike race? The fans were treated to three less laps of racing.

    The rules from now on are, there are no rules. If you screw up, we'll tell you, but we won't tell you in advance. Will we race in the rain? Don't know. We'll get back to you. Racing in the rain at Fontana is insane. The daffy curbing that makes up the chicane in turn one is lethal. Hit it in the dry and you might lose your front end. In the wet, you will crash and you will hit a wall. And that simply isn't fun.

    Henny Ray Abrams' Chicanery columns can be found in the pages of Cycle News at least twice a month.. for more subscription information, visit www.cyclenews.com

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    Re: Harsh editorial

    From all I've heard of this guy, he's a douche and very biased. Even so far as to be on Honda's payroll.
    That said, I agree with some of the points in this article.

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    I like this line:
    Who would benefit from Mladin's absence? Definitely not the fans, who wouldn't get to see the greatest racer in the history of American Superbike racing.

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    blah blah blah. HRA carries zero credibility inside the Industry. He has his own, very visible, agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97BladeRider
    I like this line:
    Who would benefit from Mladin's absence? Definitely not the fans, who wouldn't get to see the greatest racer in the history of American Superbike racing.
    yeah I liked that one too.

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    Yet what about his report was off base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97BladeRider View Post
    I like this line:
    Love Mat or hate Mat... that statement carries alot of truth.

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    Re: Harsh editorial

    did he say greatest american hero ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crashing Tomato View Post
    did he say greatest american hero ....
    believe it or not, I'm walking on air, never thought I could feel so free, eee, eeeeee.

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    Whether or not the "Administration" of the series has a clue or not, and despite whether or not there's any "good" reason for it... there are enough people like myself who have lost absolutely any fading interest in AMA racing to make it cause for concern. I realize that HRA is a complete jack-off with an agenda but it really doesn't matter... the lack of TV coverage, the rules being a complete waste of time both in Superbike and "Daytona SB" or whatever they call it.... it's all going the DMG way for sake of doing something different. It may work out in the long-run, most likely because it's the "only game in town" and not because it is good or makes any sense. But until a) the racing is awesome and multiple brands / riders fight for the win race in and race out, b) The bikes on the grid are like the bikes that race in every other production based series all over the country, and the world, and c) they show races either on TV, or the internet, in a timely manner without the hideous commentary and being chock-full-o-commercials.. .the series is doomed and I haven't a desire in the world to go to it, see it, follow it, or give 2 shits about anything other than *maybe* seeing BBoz rize to a god-like level to beat a completely ludicrous bike that shouldn't even be in the same class (If Buell can't make that bike into a Superbike, it shouldn't be racing, period.) THAT might be the single, sole, faint-faint-faint bright spot of the entire season, and it's sure not nearly enough to make me (or many, many, many other people as well) want to watch.

    I do like bitching about it on the interwebz though. Thank GOD I have WSBK on DVR, oh and wait, yeah they have all the races going back for years on the website. Now THAT is what I'm talkin about.

    Time to cue up some vintage Bayliss....

    Granted, nobody gives a shit or should give a shit about what *I* think. It's the fact that these sentiments are NOT unique, and are echoed amongst forums, friends, and just about anyone who knows what AMA/DMG even is. There are people on both sides, but there are enough people who *should be die hard fans* that just... don't give a rats ass. How are you possibly going to get NEW people interested if you can't keep a significant majority of the fanbase you already had, that WOULD HAVE put up with some growing pains if it wasn't so piss-poorly mis-managed?

    Uber sad thing is, I didn't get to see AMA in person at Loudon back in the day, and had always longed to. Now even w/ NJMP being so close, I'd rather spend *way* more $ to go to Miller and catch a properly good show.

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    This is what many of you just following along on the internet do not realize or keep forgetting (because much of this has been put out before)


    1) The TV package was dead / dying before DMG took over. The numbers were horrible and Speed didn't give two shits about AMA to begin with. The loss of 'same day or close to same day' coverage isn't all pin the tail on the DMG's fault. How horrible, so horrible when I saw them I was embarrassed to be a roadracer. I think a channel with grass growing would have more viewers.

    2) The racing on track is good in 2009. If you aren't following it, you are missing out

    3) WSBK rules package WAS OFFERED to the OEMs and they bitched about that too. There was a no win situation going on in mid-late 2008 with the OEMs

    4) A WSBK rules package WILL NOT WORK in the USA for many reasons people fail to think about. Those bikes cost way more than 2008 AMA Superbikes. It would price the B and C level teams even more out of the paddock and keep it OEM only again. Many many current non-OEM teams would have a tough time fielding full on WSBK's with two riders in 2009 based on budget. OEM teams run off 6-12 million dollar budgets. Top B level Private teams on 1-2 million (Pegram, M4, Jordan, etc). WSBK rules would make it nigh impossible to field a private team for that sort of money. Forget your sub 1 million dollar teams. HA!!

    5) The bikes really aren't the dumbed down. You watch a race and they are still lighting it up, sliding sideways, wheeling out of turns, and causing mayhem like before. Perhaps the VERY BEST riders can notice at difference but that's only about 3 of them out there.

    6) To point 5. Last year there was only 7 or 8 'real' Superbikes out there. The rest were Superstock bikes. The 2009 bikes are basically 2008 Superstock bikes

    7) Jeff Wood rode a 2008 Superstock bike at Daytona and it was the sickest bike he's ever ridden. It's legal for 2009 Superbike. The bike was topping 195mph on the banking. It's not slow

    8) The main people in the paddock bitching about the DMG is Old Guard riders (hacking, mladin for example) and the OEM teams. The majority of the riders and teams are fine with what's going on and realize that ANY NEW organization will have issues starting out

    9) I've had my headaches with the 'new AMA' and some heated discussions already. However for the most part they have been very very good to work with and ready to listen.

    10) Worth repeating. The TV DEAL WAS FUCKED ALREADY



    You guys keep comparing to WSBK and MotoGP. Hate to break it to you but we do not have that level of money and fan base in the sport here in the USA. Why do you think WSBK has every race online and live broadcasting? Because it is IMMENSELY POPULAR IN EUROPE. You can go to XYZ brand and say 'oh we have a property that reaches 10 million fans and is front page news in 10 countries'. Guess what, that's not the USA. We don't even make the national newspapers here. Try selling that to sponsors. Try selling that to a network. Try selling that to outside industry. It's hard, trust me.

    The riders in the AMA are racing hard, the bikes are good, the racing is close, and you're doing yourself a disservice as a United States racing fan if you write off your national series so quickly. Why we are in the friggin predicament in the first place!!!

    All I know is tomorrow night I'd like to watch the AMA Prime Time show but I don't have cable and that bums me out. I want to watch the show EVEN THOU I was at the race, know the outcome, and know everything about everyone involved just because I LOVE ROADRACING and want to support the sport.

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    Know what really sucks. People have LOST potential 2009 sponsors because they type "AMA Pro Racing" into Google and get 999 pages of internet crazy talk and wacked out Sky Is Falling articles. I know I'm literally paranoid about approaching potential outside sponsors and having them do some quick Google research.


    I had two friends come out to Fontana and watch the races and they had a ball. They'd never been to a AMA race other than the joint Moto GP / Laguna Round last year. They walked around, watched races, met riders, walked on the grid, and loved it. They do trackdays, ride street, and do not read message boards.

    I agree that the lack of Same Day Racing on TV SUCKS A HUGE ONE. But knowing that our backs were against the wall... I'm happy to have some TV package to sell to sponsors and know we can only grow from here.

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    too many words...

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    ill admit that i havent followed too closely with the rules changes, but from what ive seen racing wise, it seems to be much closer competition. last year Ben and Mat would be at least 3 seconds ahead of the field by lap 3. it doesnt seem to be like that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    ill admit that i havent followed too closely with the rules changes, but from what ive seen racing wise, it seems to be much closer competition. last year Ben and Mat would be at least 3 seconds ahead of the field by lap 3. it doesnt seem to be like that now.
    Mat is still a World Class rider and will win many more races this year. The main difference is more bikes are able to run at a close pace to the front. It's definitely levels some things to a achievable point. That's good.

    Both Daytona and Fontana Mladin set Superpole times that were just STUPID fast. Like blew everyone out of the water. In the races thou his pace has dropped and more guys could hang. Yates was actually reeling in Mladin and Hayden in Race 1 and was running their pace lap in and lap out. Wasn't like that last year..... Shit May was within .7 seconds of Mladin's pace in Race 2, last year May wasn't even in the same time zone.

    Daytona Sportbike has 6 OEMs in the Top 7. All were running within .4 of the best lap. That's good and fun to watch.

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    Sorry if the article riled ya up, Alex... but I knew you'd eventually toss up some really good counter points. I'm glad ya did

    Mind if I copy/paste some of that in the thread I found the article in on svrider? I'll give credit to "Anonymous Fan with inside info"

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    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    2) The racing on track is good in 2009. If you aren't following it, you are missing out
    I agree with your points, but as for this one. WE CANT FOLLOW IT. I dont care whos fault the TV deal is, unless you can go to every event (heres where I say I hate you) theres no way to follow the racing until 2 weeks afterwards. It doesnt matter how good the racing is if you cant see it.
    But yes, people are making it way worse than it is.

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    Henny Ray Abrams wrote a column a long time ago about the USCRA sidecar racers. He went out of his way to be totally insulting towards them. As far as I am concerned, he is a hack journalist and I will never spend one cent towards an issue of Cycle News as long as he is on the staff.
    I could care less if he actually made any valid points. He is a douchebag of the first degree and he usually has a personal agenda. Fuck him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    I agree with your points, but as for this one. WE CANT FOLLOW IT. I dont care whos fault the TV deal is, unless you can go to every event (heres where I say I hate you) theres no way to follow the racing until 2 weeks afterwards. It doesnt matter how good the racing is if you cant see it.
    But yes, people are making it way worse than it is.
    Richie. Tomorrow is 7 days after the event, not 14 days, and you can watch Auto Club Speedway Sat 3/28 10:00pm Fontana ASB & DSB 1 - Next Saturday Race's 2 will air.


    I've been 'following' World Superbike and MotoGP for over 5 years and I've seen about 5% of them on TV. I read the websites, catch live timing when I can, look at photo galleries, pour over lap charts, talk on MSG boards about the races, and generally root for my fave riders and teams, all without watching it on TV LIVE.

    Is Live TV awesome - YES
    Can you still follow a sport without it - YES
    Is it still enjoyable - Yes it can be
    Will we have Live TV in 2009 - NO
    Will we have Live TV in 2010 - That's up to YOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    Is Live TV awesome - YES
    Can you still follow a sport without it - YES
    Is it still enjoyable - Yes it can be
    Will we have Live TV in 2009 - NO
    Will we have Live TV in 2010 - That's up to YOU
    Agree
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    Agree
    Disagree (but man I hope Im wrong)

    I just cant follow without seeing it on tv. Maybe its me and my mental issues coming out, but I see the results, so and so wins, great. So theres no difference between last year with the spies/mladin show and this year when theoretically theres a number of people that can win. All I see is who wins. I never watched World Superbike till this season, and I'm hooked. The one thing I know, is I love racing, but the second I see who wins I lose interest. The difference between 1 day (when I can see WSBK) and 7 days is fucking HUGE. Its nearly impossible to go a week without accidentally seeing the results. Nevermind the tv coverage as been just absolutely piss poor.
    Im just sayin bro, it dont matter how good the production is if you cant see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Agree
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    Disagree (but man I hope Im wrong)

    I just cant follow without seeing it on tv. Maybe its me and my mental issues coming out, but I see the results, so and so wins, great. So theres no difference between last year with the spies/mladin show and this year when theoretically theres a number of people that can win. All I see is who wins. I never watched World Superbike till this season, and I'm hooked. The one thing I know, is I love racing, but the second I see who wins I lose interest. The difference between 1 day (when I can see WSBK) and 7 days is fucking HUGE. Its nearly impossible to go a week without accidentally seeing the results. Nevermind the tv coverage as been just absolutely piss poor.
    Im just sayin bro, it dont matter how good the production is if you cant see it.
    This is exactly what is killing it for me. I want AMA superbike or whatever its called now to succeed. But the racing has been shitty for the last few years, and now with no good, timely race coverage it is nearly impossible for me to get interested and follow. Whoever is responsible for the new coverage format may be driving off more long time fans (most of the fans I know stopped following the series within the last couple years because it SUCKED compared to WSBK and MotoGP). I've been hanging on, waiting for an improvement because I remember how good it has been in the 15 years I have been watching the series. If the racing is better, it's not being presented/promoted properly and I don't see how they are going to grow the series with the shit coverage they are giving it. I know budget is the huge issue, and change is difficult. It really feels like the whole series has taken a major step down in terms of prestige.
    All that blathering aside I hope the series survives and improves...

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    Very good counter points Alex, especially about the budget thing. One thing I would love to know is what the budget is amongst BSB teams, or Aussie Superbikes... How much of that $6M budget is attributed to the over-the-road cost of a global series? A "customer spec" bike is about $125k-150k... which... isn't terribly hard to conceive even for an outfit like Pegram's...

    I realize that a WSBK type rules package was offered and denied in the midst of a pissing match between DMG and the American OEMS.... that was a shame. But wouldn't it be better to say "we're going in a direction that brings us *closer* to everyone else the world over" (not JUST WSBK, but other National-level series) and stick with it?

    In the end, it all comes down to is how the sport is marketed and presented. I really hope that people like you will help this cause.

    In the past it was presented OK, but marketed absolutely horribly, this is something that DMG *should* excel at, but are falling on their face. The are tied to an organization, TV network, and mind-set that knows and caters to NASCAR. I don't know how anyone expects the same methodologies to work.

    The TV / coverage is something Speed simply can not, nor will not influence positively. How could anyone rationally expect SPEED to put any effort in at all when they've got such a winning business strategy with the programming they already have?

    If DMG, or anyone looking to grow the AMA is serious...

    1) Get OFF of Speed as fast as humanly possible.
    2) Get ON a network that understands Moto racing is NOT Nascar, perhaps a network with some experience in extreme sports and are able to be more dynamic, something the sport definitely embodies, and clearly needs out of it's programming outlet.
    3) If you can't get a TV network to get behind the product, record and host the racing online. Go viral, think outside the box. Even if it's NOT live... get it online within a reasonable time and people will FLOCK, especially if it's decent quality with commentators that don't suck the life out of the race, and DOWN LOADABLE. The streaming BS isn't going to cut it.
    4) Work to get the word out, there's barely any advertising on SPEED for the AMA racing, let alone other networks or other areas of media. It's hard work (even as an enthusiast) to figure out what day and time to even try and tune in to watch.

    One thing that nobody has been able to give a straight answer to is why the rules package for Daytona Superbikes seems to have been created by absolute baffons. If you can't get WSBK rules passed because the tune is too extreme / expensive, there's ZERO excuse for not getting WSS rules in place. I4 600s, 3-Cyl 675, 2 cyl 850. Done. (Yes I realize 850 twins aren't allowed in WSS but it's my own pitch for letting the 848 in... a shamelessly biased one at that!) But please... 3 year old 1000cc V-twins from one brand, with brand new 1125cc V-twins from another, against I4 600s?! Even my head spins when trying to think how in the world that grid was dreamed up. "Supersport" has always, and will always be a phenomenal class to watch and follow the world over, being arrogant enough to think that being different and going against a proven quantity is an uphill battle at best. If you need a class for the odd-ball bikes, give it to em like Pro Thunder used to be, don't f*ck up the SuperSport class which everyone can relate to, and most amateurs have even raced in....

    Anyways, to be continued I'm sure

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    If I can't watch an actual race via video, either during or afterwards within a reasonable time, then I could give a rats ass.

    If you like fantasy sports, I can see the correlation to liking racing without seeing it. For me, numbers on a page don't get exciting.

    I like to watch when I'm flipping the channels and happen to run across it. I have never made any sort of effort to tune in. If I knew it was on every week or every two weeks on a certain day at a certain time, I'd be far more apt to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    If I can't watch an actual race via video, either during or afterwards within a reasonable time, then I could give a rats ass.

    If you like fantasy sports, I can see the correlation to liking racing without seeing it. For me, numbers on a page don't get exciting.

    I like to watch when I'm flipping the channels and happen to run across it. I have never made any sort of effort to tune in. If I knew it was on every week or every two weeks on a certain day at a certain time, I'd be far more apt to watch.

    So you like the new format then?

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