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    EBR no more

    Was out at the movies with friends and he said he just found out ebr filed for bankruptcy. Even as a dealer he learned from cycle news not from ebr.

    Erik Buell Racing Closes Its Doors - Cycle News

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    Sucks, was hoping he would have some success on his own.

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    Doesn't help that Larry Pegram always does horribly in the standings! I'm always rooting for him and he can't even come close to "competing " with the other teams.....

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    I should swing by my local bike shop who carries EBRs, see what the markdown currently is.

    It's too bad, I've always wanted a Buell and was really hoping EBR would pick back up from where they left off.

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    I had a bad feeling over the winter when a few brand new EBR's showed up on ebay for like 5000 off msrp.

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    We can't really be surprised, can we? His shift in focus to race bikes was odd given their lack of results. If he had shifted towards boutique streetbikes, maybe he could have carved out a niche

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    Nah, we can't really be surprised.
    Pretty much a bummer, regardless.
    Not many people want a super exotic American made(ish) whip like that.

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    I thought the RX was a cool bike, but in that price range I'd take the KTM RC8R, and in that price range you are also competing with the Duc. A friend of mine with the RC8R actually liked the EBR motor more. I was hoping that there would be a market for the rider who wants a sportbike but wants American made. Hopefully those that did buy them will be ok parts and service wise.

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    That's too bad. But I think Erik was a classic case of working in your company more than on your company.

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    shoulda used a different oil.

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    Should have started with an Adventure Bike

    Sportbikes were already shrinking when he started

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    Once upon a time, I was in the motorcycle business, and I learned two things, 1) motorcycles and business are two very different things, and 2) I was better at motorcycles than I was at business.

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    I've seriously been looking into buying one lately. I don't know if this drop the price like a rock or not. Is it crazy to buy a bike from a dead company?

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    Meh... rotax motor? Who knows.... but if they're cheeep why not?

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    I loved the idea of an American produced sporty bike, but not with the wonky design fetishes that Buell could never seem to let go. Apparently the only people who care about rim brakes and fuel in the frame have the last name Buell. Those didn't make his bikes unique as much as they made them unusual. No thanks.

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    Re: EBR no more

    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    I've seriously been looking into buying one lately. I don't know if this drop the price like a rock or not. Is it crazy to buy a bike from a dead company?
    Motorsports international is/was an ebr dealer, I was there yesterday and they only have 2 of the naked ones left, they didn't even have prices on them anymore. Last time I was there they had 5 or 6 and and they were all like $4k off.

    I'm sure you could get an amazing deal on one and on paper they seem like one hell of a bike, I'd only be very worried about replacement parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    We can't really be surprised, can we? His shift in focus to race bikes was odd given their lack of results. If he had shifted towards boutique streetbikes, maybe he could have carved out a niche

    Yeah, that or coffee tables!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhzx10 View Post
    Yeah, that or coffee tables!
    And if you don't have a coffee table, it folds out into a coffee table!

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    I am so confused. Didn't "Hero Honda" (Indian company) have a 50% stake in EBR? Did they pull out?

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    49% stake, and the assumption is the buy in was tiered and hinged on performance metrics for EBR which they apparently didn't make.

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    The rumors are that hero wouldn't capitalize them anymore to sink the company. Then they could buy the rest of the stock for pennies on the dollar.

    EBR helped design 2 or 3 models for hero during the partnership. I'm sure hero wouldn't let them fail without alterior motives.

    As far as discounting them goes it may not be as much as you would think. Some dealers have already reported the banks are starting repossession. Others had heard through the grape vine this was in the works and refused shipment or sent them back before the end. I'm sure someone will dump them on eBay at some point but they will have switched hands so many times its would be a used bike more or less.
    Parts are also an issue now. Many of them are ebr made items and the online store has stopped shipping. One has to wonder how much supply is left anyway. Couple guys on the buell forums are complaining about needing a part or 2 that have been on back order for weeks and now have zero chance of getting them. Pretty expensive paperweights now.

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    I'm not at all overly bullish on the future of Motus either....tick, tock, tick, tock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by South of Heaven View Post
    I'm not at all overly bullish on the future of Motus either....tick, tock, tick, tock.

    MOTUS
    Geez, I had never heard of this "motus"

    "Made in Alabama"

    Oh boy. haha.

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    Isn't half a 1956 Chevy 283 ?

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    The EBRs I liked, but was pretty unlikely to buy one. That field is too crowded with proven and great sportbikes for equal or less money.

    The MOTUS, though, I'm excited about. I very much look forward to taking a testride on one of those when I can arrange it.
    They've been moving slowly, and the timeline has slipped several times, but they are finally producing bikes, and getting production models out to the magazines and such.
    I wish they had incorporated the CDI technology as originally planned, and shaft drive would have been nice for a sport-tourer. But it looks like a well-engineered and great bike.

    The engine has some design features like a Chevy smallblock, and a company that has a history with those helped design it. But it isn't just half of a smallblock; it's a new design and shares no parts. For one thing, it's a different size -- the MOTUS "baby block" is a 1600cc V-4. If you doubled that to a V-8, it would be a bit less than 200ci -- a size that no Chevy smallblock ever was.

    Yes, the MOTUS is expensive, but it seems well made and could end up being the best sport-tourer out there.
    I'm keeping an eye on it, and might consider one if/when they do a second-gen model with CDI and/or shaft drive (the engine is already mounted longitudinally, so a shaft drive system would be not very hard for them to add).

    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    Geez, I had never heard of this "motus"

    "Made in Alabama"

    Oh boy. haha.
    A lot of cars are made in Alabama these days; I don't see that as a problem at all. Also, the area is a hotbed of expertise in hotrods, NASCAR and Sprint racing, and other such tech, some of which MOTUS used in their designs.

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