Real Motorcycle Forums For Real Riders!
Home Gallery Classifieds Arcade Store Privacy Support Us RSS Feeds
Go Back   NESR Forums > Tech Forums > Bike Maintenance
Register Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to New England Streetriders! You are currently viewing the site as a guest which gives you limited access to most features.

  

These ads do not show to registered members. Register Now!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-30-03, 09:51 AM
VinceF2's Avatar
Poncharello
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 1,007
Send a message via AIM to VinceF2 Send a message via Yahoo to VinceF2

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


Hello all...

I've been working with my wifes EX500 when I can to try and figure out why I keep loosing the #1 cylinder... The old plug smelled badly of gas... and had black carbon deposits on it... I threw in new plugs and still no #1 cylinder... I pulled the plug and it was soaked in fuel... the gap was basically shut with fuel...

tested the coils and compression... all seems good there...

So... I'm heading into the carbs... but ummm what am I looking for? what causes this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated... I had the bike tuned by New England Motorsports last year and it ran fine when I parked it...

Thanks in advance y'all....

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-30-03, 09:57 AM
Degsy's Avatar
99% of people who get into racing know next to nothing about racing.
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 6,343

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


Float stuck? Clean the carbs of all the varnish that has gathered over the winter.

Derek
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-30-03, 10:03 AM
Honclfibr's Avatar
Self induldged jackass
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Derry, NH
Age: 27
Posts: 5,276
Send a message via AIM to Honclfibr

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


I believe if your bowl floats are set incorrectly (or if they've filleed up with gas and don't float right) you'll get a constant stream of gas from the tank, which will eventually overflow the bowls and pour into your cylinder, flooding the engine. Not sure about that though, anyone care to confirm or refute?

Also if your jet needle was stuck open I suppose you'd flood the cylinder at low rpms...but I can't think of what would cause a jet needle to stick open, does this ever happen?

In general though, once you've got the carbs off, I'd suggest completely disassembling them and soaking all the metal parts in carb cleaner. This is what I did on my EX, and after doing so the bike ran much better than before. The whole procedure would take you about 30 minutes to an hour once you have the carbs off.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-30-03, 10:46 AM
VinceF2's Avatar
Poncharello
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 1,007
Send a message via AIM to VinceF2 Send a message via Yahoo to VinceF2

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


Ok thanks guys... I was kinda thinking something must be stuck... and I did notice that the cylinder would kick in sometimes at higher rpm....

I guess putting stabil in the tank and running it before parking it isn't enough... maybe I didn't run it long enough....

Thanks for the replies gentleman...

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-30-03, 12:48 PM
stoinkythepig's Avatar
Dictionary quoting knob
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Raymond NH
Age: 42
Posts: 1,804

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


Before you go to the trouble of taking the carbs apart, you should ensure that you have a "good" spark. Assuming the spark is present and bright blue, you can move on to the carbs. Otherwise, check the resistance of the spark plug wire from the coil to the plug. Should be 4.7k ohms if memory serves. Also, check the ignition pickup coils for equal resistance (can't recall what it should be). If one is open that would be the problem.

I suspect the problem is carbs but it sounds like you did not thoroughly check the ignition system and it's a whole lot easier to do than screwing around with carbs.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-30-03, 01:22 PM
VinceF2's Avatar
Poncharello
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 1,007
Send a message via AIM to VinceF2 Send a message via Yahoo to VinceF2

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


Hey Stoinky....

I should have clarified that I did test the coils resitance... and used a spark tester... the spark is strong... as strong as my EX race bike that I compared it against... I also compared the resistance to the coils I have on my race bike... and spares I have lying around...

I'm pretty sure the ignition system is ok.... but I thank you for the post... I was hoping I wouldn't have to pull the carbs... not that it's hard... just annoying...

Thanks again,
Mike
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-30-03, 01:44 PM
stoinkythepig's Avatar
Dictionary quoting knob
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Raymond NH
Age: 42
Posts: 1,804

Fouling plugs... 96 EX500...


I'm in agreement with Honclfibr then. You likely have a stuck float valve or a needle that's popped out of it's jet and can't go back in. Pull the carb top first since I think it's accessible without pulling the carbs off.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  NESR Forums > Tech Forums > Bike Maintenance



Thread Tools
Postdisplay-Type
Postdisplay-Type Vertical Postbit

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Troubleshooting oil on spark plugs Billy Bike Maintenance 8 03-15-06 01:20 PM
changing spark plugs? jesse_k Bike Maintenance 8 06-27-04 07:55 AM
Ear Plugs...How do they affect your ride? Wayne-o General Bike Related 18 06-15-04 04:25 PM
spark plugs oreo_n2 General Bike Related 3 04-14-03 07:32 PM
ear plugs stoinkythepig General Bike Related 23 03-01-03 10:40 PM


One of the largest message boards on the web !

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 PM.

SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Page generated in 0.19 seconds (68.74% PHP - 31.26% MySQL) with 10 queries