[bigred875]

I would be more interested in what the Democrats had to say about high gas prices if these were not the same people who refused to let us drill for oil in Alaska, imposed massive restrictions on building new refineries, and who shut down the development of nuclear power in this country decades ago.

But it's too much having to watch Democrats wail about the awful calamity to poor working families of having to pay high gas prices.

Imposing punitive taxation on gasoline to force people to ride bicycles has been one of the left's main policy goals for years.

For decades Democrats have been trying to raise the price of gasoline so that the working class will stop their infernal car-driving and start riding on buses where they belong, while liberals ride in Gulfstream jets.

The last time the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate and the presidency was in 1993. Immediately after trying to put gays in the military and socialize all health care, Clinton's next order of business was to propose an energy tax on all fuels, including a 26-cent tax on gas. I think the bill was called "putting people first in line at the bus station."

Al Gore defended the gas tax, vowing that it was "absolutely not coming out" of the energy bill regardless of "how much trouble it causes the entire package." The important thing was to force Americans to stop their infernal car-driving, no matter how much it cost.

And mind you, this was before we knew Gore was clinically insane. Back then we thought he was just a double-talking stuffed shirt who seemed kind of gay.

Democrats in Congress promptly introduced an "energy bill" that would put an additional 25-cent-a-gallon tax on gasoline to stop "global warming," an atmospheric phenomenon supposedly aggravated by frivolous human activities such as commerce, travel and food production. This is the Democratic Party. That's their program.

Democratic House Speaker Tom Foley endorsed the proposal on "Charlie Rose," saying: "I'd have a five-cent increase every year for five years. ... But that's not going to happen ... because we've got people who fret and worry that one- or two-tenths of a cent of a gasoline tax is going to cause some revolution at home." So in Tom Foley's universe, two-tenths of a cent is the same as a quarter — another testimonial to the American public educational system.

The Democrats' proposed gas tax did cause a revolution at home, and consequently the Democrats were able to sneak through only an additional 4.3-cent federal tax on gasoline. After tut-tutting the idea that voters would object if the Democrats attempted a huge gas tax increase, Speaker Tom Foley soon became former speaker, and indeed former Congressman Tom Foley.

Gary Hart, another whimsical demonstration of what Democrats think a president should be like, said at the time, "I certainly favor consumption taxes, particularly on energy." Then there's John Kerry, who favored a 50-cent increase in the gas tax in 1994. If he were a rap artist, Kerry's stage name would be "Fifty Cent a Gallon."

Last year, a couple of green "climatologists" at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign were back at it in the journal Science, wheeling out their proposal for a 25-cent-a-gallon tax on gasoline as an "insurance policy" against global warming.

Just two months ago, we were being confidently told — on the basis of a New York Times/CBS News poll, so it must be true — that "Americans might OK a gasoline tax hike if it reduced global warming or lessened U.S. dependence on foreign oil." (This poll was wedged in among the 29 polls claiming Americans think we're losing the war in Iraq.) Other results from the Times' "meaningless polls" section: Americans might "OK" a Dennis Kucinich presidency if it meant free ice cream every Tuesday.

How many times do Democrats have to tell us they want to raise the price of gas for the average American before the average American believes them? Is it more or less than the number of times Democrats tell us they want to surrender in the war on terrorism?

It's as if a switch goes off in people's brains telling them: The Democrats can't be saying they want to destroy the lives of people who drive cars because my father was a Democrat, and the Democrats can't be this stupid!

The Democrats' only objection to current gas prices is that the federal government's cut is a mere 18.4 cents a gallon. States like New York get another 44 cents per gallon in taxes. The Democratic brain processes the fact that "big oil companies" get nearly 9 cents a gallon and thinks: WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT MONEY!

When the free market does the exact thing liberals have been itching to do through taxation, they pretend to be appalled by high gas prices, hoping the public will forget that high gas prices are part of their agenda.

[bigred875]

by Ann Coulter
April 26, 2006

[benVFR]

Pure Hot air to distract people from the fact that Bush and the Republicans have nothing to say or do about the problem either.

Face it... reducing dependency is the ONLY thing that will work.

It doesn't mean you can ride around in your car or bike for fun but why should you HAVE to use a car all the time.

I wonder if Ann rides around in a Gulfstream like those evil liberals.

[bigred875]

which one are you?

[benVFR]

Fix your post.

Can you tell it's raining?

[bigred875]

Originally posted by benVFR
Fix your post.

Can you tell it's raining?

lol..yup

the fact is the the Bush Admin has been pushing for alternative fuel resources since they took office...

and it isnt that the liberals are evil..just hypocrites...it makes me want to punch george clooney in the mouth when i see him pull up to a photo op in his hybrid car yet will fly around the country on private jets...

[Honclfibr]

I'm a liberal, where's my gulfstream?

[TheIglu]

I'm currently actively searching for a small diesel car. Older Volvo 240, VW Diesel, etc etc.

BIO BITCHES!

Gunna either make my own Bio or run SVO/bio mix. Even with the cost of lye and methenol it only comes out to about $.60 a gallon.

We'll be tradin in the woman's subaru within the year for a VW TDI or similar diesel.

A friend of mine called me an idiot for going out of my way to buy a different car just cause of gas prices.

They are NOT dropping any time soon. I'm glad they are high, and other than my trip to Deal's shortly, I hope they stay high. Hopefully by nextyear I'll have a diesel and will carry my own 100 gallon tank of SVO for a completely FREE trip down there and back.

Yeah, lets drill in alaska, delay in inevitable for a few years while ruining an untouched ecosystem that is VERY delicate. Also get rid of smog reducing ethanol with makes up 10% of our gas now. Hell, lets start dumping our waste oil in the reserviors since those "hippie liberals" don't know shit about ecology, pollution and the effects it has on the lives we lead.

[bigred875]

i hear ya..that was the reason i bought a diesel truck..

how much have you researched this? how easy is it to get set up and get the veggie oil from places?

i saw an older jetta in the wantad for $3400 with the conversion all done..

[benVFR]

Clayton what is SVO?

A while ago I talked to a bunch of the VW TDI biodiesel people at an alternative fuel "car show". I thought they were running 90% diesel, 10% biodiesel.

Doesn't sound all that worth it if you have to put that much regular diesel in.

[bigred875]

WVO i think is what he meant...not sure though

from what i understand the VW conversions you need to warm it up using diesel then switch to VO then back when you are shutting down..

there are also tanks you can buy to make your own...then you can run straight biodiesel and mix it with regualr without doing anything...but you have to tranfers like 40 gallons to your tank then mix it....

[bigred875]

also the prices of the TDI's are just friggin crazy...

[TheIglu]

SVO = WVO

Straight/Waste Vegetable Oil

That is one way to do it. You use your regular tank running petro diesel or bio to warm the engine and the fuel transfer lines. Then switch it over to the free shit that most resteraunts have to pay to get rid of and will happily give to you. Runs great, just filter it well and don't use stuff with lots of hydroginated (whatever is spelled like) fats which contain water.

Other way to do it is to take the SVO/WVO, convert it to Biodiesel and run it in any diesel car just like normal diesel fuel. Runs smoother, has less emissions (other than NO, has 4% more due to the methanol) and smells like french fries for exhaust

www.greasecar.com for a company that makes SVO kits.

I've seen them work and I already have enough knowledge due to recent job experience to automate the entire biodiesel refining process (minus the titration, that is still manual but easy).

I'd probably go bio at first. Once I got enough experience with it and it's $.60 a gallon overhead, I'd use that in the normal tank for warm up/shutdown and put in an SVO tank for rackin up the miles. FREE FUEL (essentially).

If they ever come out with a real diesel motorcycle I'd buy it. Not the KLR one, that isn't feasable for the investment required.

Diesels are 40% more efficient than gas engines with all other things equal. They will always be. The diesel fuel (I think sectanes? like octanes which are 8 count molecular string, just many more) has more potential energy than gasoline. More grunt per gallon!

[bentbryan]

High gas prices will not only affect you at the pump. Very soon we will start to see the effects of it everywhere when the cost of shipping goes thru the roof.

[bigred875]

Then switch it over to the free shit that most resteraunts have to pay to get rid of and will happily give to you.

are you sure about this? i heard that they have like contracts with people that fill and take away the used oil and that it can be tricky finding places that will give it to you...

[TheIglu]

Yup. Checked on it. They have to pay to dispose of it. The less they have to pay to get rid of, the better for them and me.

[oreo_n2]

there is some startup cost to "brewing" your own bio-diesel.
about $2k-$3k for the starter kit, which will get you making about 40 gallons of biodiesel per batch... and a batch takes about 24 hours. with each 40 gallons of biodiesel generated, i am pretty sure you end up with about the same amount of waste sludge to deal with.


The used oil is free.... usually.... you just need a way to go get it in most cases.

I foresee some commercial biodiesel refineries in the not too distant future... then the used oil wont be so free!?
http://www.biodiesel.org/


It'll take a couple years to make back the initial startup cost on average, varies with rate of consumption.

oh yea... biodiesel is better for your truck than regular diesel... it supposedly has better lubrication properties. i dont know how true that is... since its still predominantly coming from back yard distrilleries and not controlled at all.


edit: one corerection.. you get alomost a 1:1 ratio of oil in vs biodiesel out... but there are byproducts from the process.... mostly glycerine.

[ChR1s]

That biodiesel is fucking obnoxious. I'd like to see an entire community adopt it and see what results. Christ that would be some stench. Maybe Northampton could be the first?

That reminds me. Now that the warranty is up on the Uglavanche, I'll have to source a twin-screw blower for it.

[beet]

that tranny can't even take the stock 327
better get a allison !!!!!! stock tranny would make a good hot dog cooker

[Karaya One]

Now - what about the flexi-fuel GM products now in their full size trucks?

80-20 ethanol gas.

Do you really get good / same power out of ethanol in that quantity as you do gas? How does the MPG differ?