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#1
06-22-06, 06:40 PM
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Where's the outrage?!Two of our guys are butchered like animals . Where's all these great organizations like Amnesty International? Oh that's right! They're still worried about how we treat prisoners down in Gitmo! Where do I sign up to go kill goat-herding rag heads for six months?  |
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#3
06-22-06, 07:36 PM
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Where's the outrage?!US Army US Air Force US Navy US Marines Corps Put your money where your mouth is, recruiting stations are not hard to find! If 1/10th of the Chickenhawk Republicans screaming for blood & a fight signed up we would not have a recruiting problem! |
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#5
06-22-06, 08:19 PM
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Where's the outrage?!In case you didn't know... # of al queda captives executed by US forces = zero. # of US military captives executed by al queda = every single one. These guys were not just killed, they had their testicles cut off, dicks cut off and stuck in their mouths, limbs contorted and broken, hearts cut out and finally they were beheaded. It's funny...the people that cry about Gitmo and Abu Garib (whatever) now have NOTHING to say about this. |
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06-22-06, 08:30 PM
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At this point in my life I wouldn't join. But if I was drafted I'd go. |
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06-22-06, 08:48 PM
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#9
06-22-06, 09:09 PM
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Thats not true, Bosnia, Somalia,Sudan, Hati. Clinton dispised the Military and would demoralize them in any way he could. If Clinton had taken care of the problems he had during his administration instead of hiding behind a blue dress this would be all mute. |
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#10
06-22-06, 09:32 PM
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Didn't we go to war everytime Clinton was accused of something immoral or illegal? YES. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention |
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#11
06-22-06, 09:37 PM
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Somalia? Bosnia? etc? We didn't go there looking for WMD's. We went there to resolve conflicts that were costing thousands upon thousands of lives per year. Whil the Iraqi regime was no fun loving love-fest, it wasn't commiting genocide on a level of Bosnia. This argument has been beaten to death. I'd rather see that country go to shit than hear on the news about another few soldiers getting slaughtered like this. There will never be an end to the insurgents. Us being there is fueling more to be created. They aren't going to stop and it isn't an enemy we can beat with military might. 100 people spread out in a country of a few million will be harder to beat than a recognizable armored force. |
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#12
06-22-06, 09:57 PM
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At least Clinton would have done something about Darfur. Weather it be a coverup for getting head from a girl or any other reason, it would have been done. Or does that only count if we are attacked? While we're blaming presidents, what about Bush? Wouldn't this whole Iraq thing of been avoided had he "finished the job" as the war mongers like to say? Or was it that he abided by the UN resolution? Aren't we waiting for a UN resolution on Darfur? Why didn't we wait for Iraq's? Are we really the world police or are we just looking out for ourselves? Why not Iran and North Korea then? Looks like while we finally found 500 small munitions of Sarin gas N.Korea has developed and is ready to test an ICBM with nuclear payload. Which is more deadly? A couple terrorists with a plane, dirty bomb or the like, or a nuclear warhead with the ability to be launched and hit any city on the west coast of the US? Not questioning the motives and ability of your government is truely unpatriotic. Disagreement is not. Lets just get the insults out of the way, shall we? It's much easier to have some sort of discussion in here without them. Unless of course I can't have a little fun in here with my head in my ass. I'm not surprised they did this to them. It comes as no shock to me. In fact, I'm surprised this hasn't happened more. They flew planes of innocent people into buildings of innocent people. Of course they will resort to this. I'm not shocked and will continue to believe that this will never end. Why do you think people want the troops to be pulled? Oh, that's right, we don't support the troops if we want them to come home alive, my mistake. Let Israel handle Iraq. They are actually in a situation where an out of control Iraq could be dangerous to them. Turkey can also step up along with the EU. |
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#14
06-23-06, 08:00 AM
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Where's the outrage?![quote]Originally posted by bentbryan [b]Actually, we wouldn't have a recruiting problem if Clinton hadn't gutted the military during his stay. plus fucking one!! i did five years in the navy during bubba's presidency. the defence budget was cut to shit so much we couldn't get enough fuel to get underway and do proper training. when it came time for my last deployment the crew on my destroyer was lucky if they could find there battle station never mind prepare for attack or react to a casualty. all they new was where there life boat station was. remember this: A STRONG DEFENCE IS YOUR BEST OFFENCE. DON'T FUCKING CUT THE DEFENCE BUDGET.....EVER! |
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#15
06-23-06, 08:19 AM
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We went to Iraq based on several riliable sources of WMD's that were a potential threat to us and our allies. There are some that argue once we stopped looking for WMD's we should have gotten out of there...but the initial attack was to protect the US citizens from Saddam selling a WMD to a terrorist cell and them setting it off in this country... Take take the blinders of man...we are in this situation because of clintons in actions...he did nothing after the 7 terrorist attacks that were against our country including the first WTC attack in 93 and he is on tape in 96 stating that he could not do anything with OBL when he knew he was responsible for the 93 attack...and this is just 1 example....or how about Clinton making a regime change in Iraq his "top" priority in 98...please...this is the only way the democrats get any traction at all the depend on the average citizens for forget all of this stuff..and they do..or were to young to remember and now think they know everything... |
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#16
06-23-06, 08:43 AM
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Where's the outrage?!And yet Bush has increased the budget dramatically and people still won't sign up. Stick your fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALALA everything is Clinton's fault" all you want but all branches of the military will tell you they can't meet their recruiting targets to fight Bush's wars. I came close to going into the AF in 2002 but now? Forget it cause you know I don't want to fight for Bush. Those of you who are foaming at the mouth should jump at the chance though, you could go over and collect some ears & noses off "terrorists". And AFAIK 30 is not too old especially if you have a college degree, they are in need of officers. As for outrage... Terrorists kill you guys walking around in Manchester, Boston, New York? I'll be outraged. Terrorists kill occupying US soldiers in their own country? Sorry, how the heck am I supposed to be outraged or even surprised when it has been going on for 3 years now? Guerillas/Freedom Fighters/Terrorists/Rebels will ALWAYS attack and kill occupying foreign soldiers in their territory. That's what they do. Hell I have a hard time even calling anyone attacking our guys IN Iraq a terorrist. They're insurgents, guerillas, rebels, etc.. but not terrorists. Outrage over our soldiers executing non-combatants, women and children, etc.. is totally different. The line may be blurred between innocent and terrorist over there but our guys are supposed to be better then everyone else over there, setting an example. The military itself is prosecuting soldiers who go on killing sprees so why don't you go complain to the military instead of the general public. Somehow the military got this crazy idea that it's soldiers shouldn't execute innocents. What the hell are they thinking with this "Honor" crap. |
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06-23-06, 09:29 AM
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06-23-06, 12:04 PM
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#19
06-23-06, 12:57 PM
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there is the whole conspiracy that the mother fucker saddam tried to kill his dad that would piss me off enough to try and get that mofo but when they found him i would have to fly over and do the dirty work myself no trials no prison no riff raff just a .45 but not that the shit in iraq is half resolved as in the dictator threat is gone there isnt much wmd stuff being found i think the troops should begin to be withdrawn before peeps hit the roof slowly withdraw slowly there is really no end in sight we can occupy and train iraqi forces but they seem to retarded to understand the concept of working together like someone said earlier the armed force are not to occupy or to resolve conflicts which is pretty much the iraqi forces and residence against the insurgence once the insurgents are only killing iraqi civilians and troops maybe they will feel the urge to expose these bastards and kill em off |
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#20
06-23-06, 06:43 PM
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Where's the outrage?!Military spending is appropriated by congress. In 1994 when military spending really started to slide, it was the first year that republicans controlled both houses of congress. So to blame Clinton for the cuts to the military is not totally accurate. As far as Amnesty International from what I can tell they monitor governments and as seen by our classification of the prisoners at Gitmo, the insurgents in Iraq would be classified as enemy combatants not under any government supervision and thereby not monitored by AI. |
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#21
06-23-06, 06:57 PM
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(1) actully, your wrong about the US forces killing captives. A number of people have died in US custody since this whole mess started. (2) I dont doubt that the last hours of those two US soilders wasn't pretty, but I have not seen any account of the graphic details you state. care to cite the source? I'm curious to see it. (3) people complain about Gitmo b/c the the USA hold's itself out to be the champion of freedom, democracy, and human rights. Al Quedia does *nothing* of the sort. To Al Quedia's credit, they actully have the conviction to follow through on their beleifs, which is more than you have, otherwise you'd be over at one of those recuting stations Ben posted the links to. |
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#22
06-23-06, 07:21 PM
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Where's the outrage?!The US military has not executed a single member of al queda. I have no doubt there have been illegal killings, but we have not made execution policy. What? Do you really need proof about what happened to these guys? Give me a fucking break. "no doubt the last two hours weren't pretty" No shit!  Just because I'm not willing to abandon my business and join the military for 4 years hardly shows a lack of conviction. I do find it interesting though that you extend credit to them over me. Maybe if I picked up arms against American military forces you'd be more gracious? |
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#23
06-23-06, 07:37 PM
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(2) proof? no, i do not. however, you made some pretty detailed claims. i am curious as to where you got that information from. (3) arm-chair soilders are the worst. since you dont have the convition to "sign up to go kill goat-herding rag heads for six months" or "put your money where your mouth is" (as Ben so aptly put), I wont even acertain an answer to your question about taking-up arms against Amrican forces, b/c I'm sure you'd lack conviction for that also. |
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06-23-06, 08:09 PM
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