[bigred875]

Originally posted by highsider
You give positive reinforcement for good behavior, no matter how ill-gotten it might be, because it sets the stage for more positive negotiations in the future. If we just keep ignoring him, we *know* things aren't going to improve; if we talk with him, there is at least a chance.

a wise man once said...fool me once and ya cant fool eh uh...umm...well ya cant fool me twice!

[highsider]

Originally posted by bigred875
a wise man once said...fool me once and ya cant fool eh uh...umm...well ya cant fool me twice!

"Fool me once and.....uhhhh...we wont be fooled again."

[bigred875]

Originally posted by highsider


"Fool me once and.....uhhhh...we wont be fooled again."

well he is first...the meaning anyways

[zombie]

here's a ride report from turkey to Iran , fantastic pictures and great report.


remember it's governments that are the problem not the people


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150377

[beet]

Our government is still trying to figure out why they have our oil.
Good point Mick



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[bentbryan]

Originally posted by TheIglu
Lets just turn them into glass. If we wipe all of them out holocaust style then we will win the war on terror.

That's what the president of Iran would like to do to Israel. He openly states this.

What do you have to say about that?

[bentbryan]

Originally posted by highsider
Read the "Edit" part, dickbag.

I did read the edit part. You're still wrong.

[bentbryan]

Originally posted by highsider
2309/]Linky[/url]

If you read the letter, this guy seems pretty reasonable. Particularly when compared to other middle eastern leaders. But once again, our President is too much of a retarded cowboy to take it as an opening of communication, and chooses to ignore it.

Here's my problem: the president of Iran OPENLY threatens to wipe-out Israel. And you say he's reasonable (I don't want to hear about edits, you stated that!).

But Bush is a retarded cowboy.

That is fucked up!!!

[bentbryan]

From today

[bigred875]

damnit...looks like W missed the window of him being nice...too bad he didnt take advantage of it when he was "reasonable"

[TheIglu]

Originally posted by bentbryan
That's what the president of Iran would like to do to Israel. He openly states this.

What do you have to say about that?

Where was "US" in his statement? If he wanted to blow up North Korea, would that be our problem too?

Israel can defend themselves.

[highsider]

Originally posted by bentbryan
Here's my problem: the president of Iran OPENLY threatens to wipe-out Israel. And you say he's reasonable (I don't want to hear about edits, you stated that!).

But Bush is a retarded cowboy.

That is fucked up!!!

You're fucked up. I give up on you, there is no hope.

[richw]

There was a Mohammad scholar on a weekend news show

He said that Mohammad said to negotiate with non believers in only 2 conditions.

If time was needed for the army of Allah to build in strength against the force of the unbelievers for later battles.

Classic delaying Tactic... see WW2

If it is believed that the infidels can be converted by other means like infiltration or occupation. Almost a political tacked.


Neither of these options involve permanent peaceful coexistence. Just a temporary cease fire while plans can come to fruition.

See how your kids look with towels on their heads

[highsider]

[Billy]

Originally posted by TheIglu
Lets just turn them into glass. If we wipe all of them out holocaust style then we will win the war on terror. That would make us good people.

This is what my boss says all the time:

Everytime you catch or kill one terrorist, it just creates 3 new ones. The only way to get rid of terrorism in the middle east is to drop a couple nuclear bombs and wipe everyone out, wait 30 or so years for the fallout to get down to safe levels and put some Walmarts in there!

I don't agree with the bomb part but I do think its true that if you catch or kill one terrorists, it just creates 3 new ones. War on terrorism is like the war on drugs. You will never win.

[JeffL]

I always thought people saying "nuke the place and turn it into a glass bowl" was always pretty ignorant, but that possibility seems more and more feasible as the months roll by.

[TheIglu]

They wanna wipe us out, so we wanna wipe them out, so they wanna wipe us out.....

You guys ever played Tick-Tack-Toe?

"Hello David. Would you like to play a game?"

[JeffL]

Lets everyone just enjoy a delicious Wachusett ale, and chill the fuck out.

Middle East needs more beer.

[richw]

I do think that there must be a grave responsibility in becoming a nuclear power.

The "little" Nations that go Nuke must be aware that

Mutually Assured Destruction

is still our strategic policy

An attack on the USA will result in total retaliation against
"Likely targets"

The Iranians can't secretly give a bomb to Al Qaeda and watch NYC go up and say. Gee that's a shame

There has to be a Nuke hit list and they must know that some Nuke attack and we will launch to all the rogue nuke nations.

You will call me ignorant savage but should the worst happen and there are cheering Muslim crowds then we should nuke any place that has the cheering crowd. If we can not stop someone going nuke then they must know that support of anti American comes with a terrible price. We still have a few thousand nuclear bombs so no one can win a war against us.