[bigred875]

Originally Posted by tonyd

Red you continue to amaze me but at least your consistant.

Iraq was not mentioned in my last post.

happy to consistantly amaze you...

You may not have said it but is was on your mind....thanks for answering me though

it's just too easy debating liberals....once they get out all the rhetoric they got nothing to say

[TheIglu]

I'd like to know what the republican party plans to do in Iraq.

All this talk about what the dem's are going to do. No mention about what the republicans are going to do if their plan that seems not to be working ends up not working.

[bigred875]

look into each candidate...they all have a plan....

p.s. - the republican plan is not W's.

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

....once they get out all the rhetoric they got nothing to say

Thats equally true amongst most conservatives, and you know it. Weenie.

[bigred875]

mitt

rudy

ron paul

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by highsider

Thats equally true amongst most conservatives, and you know it. Weenie.

not denying that...good thing i'm not one of them....i always have something to say

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by bigred875

mitt

rudy

ron paul

First one is a video and I have no sound.

Second is nothing.

Third makes no reference to anything as a plan. Just more "We should/shouldn't". Yeah, we already know what we should or shouldn't do, just saying we need new leadership is stating the obvious.

The repubs say the dems have no gameplan, lets see theirs.

[Honclfibr]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

The repubs say the dems have no gameplan, lets see theirs.

Whoah, whoah, what's all this talk about a new game plan? We stay the course. You don't change beating a dead horse midstream, as they say.

[bigred875]

get sound

JoinRudy2008 - Home or just go to the site and read it yourself

ron pauls strategy is cut and run...and focus on our borders

Hillary wants a timeline, which is the most retarded thing i've ever heard of...you dont publically or privately for that matter set a date when you will stop fighting a war....think about what that does. Other then that she just bashes W's plan...

obama - timetable for withdrawl and "reach out" to the neighboring countries to help rebuild

[tonyd]

Fuck time lines. Just start packing today and disapear like the Colts back in the day.

Most depressing thing I've read lately was an article about how if Bush said bring 'em home today it would be nearly 2 years before we had all our boys outa' Iraq, logistically speaking, all politics aside.

[Wishbone]

Originally Posted by Onlypastrana199

...you're a fucking...moron...

does she know you?

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by tonyd

Fuck time lines. Just start packing today and disapear like the Colts back in the day.

Most depressing thing I've read lately was an article about how if Bush said bring 'em home today it would be nearly 2 years before we had all our boys outa' Iraq, logistically speaking, all politics aside.

i'd be for that....bring'em home. We should have the day we stopped looking for WMD's. I used to think we couldnt do that because we wrecked their country...i've smartened up

[Onlypastrana199]

Yeah I'm gonna vote for Rudy..thats a GREAT idea...considering it was HIS judgment that left about 200 firefighters without proper communication devices and ultimately lead to their deaths..then it also came out that they didn't have the respirators they were supposed to have. So...pretty much his leadership lead to 200 dead firefighters and people who are now sick and will be for the rest of their lives because they were trying to HELP other people. And what does Rudy say? I never read that report. ...great..didn't read it, how many other important documents is he going to skip over should he win the election? But no...he'll just continue to bask in his "heroism" over 9/11. WTF did he actually do down there anyway? Other than use it for his political agenda? What makes him a "hero" ?

Debate question: Rudy what do you plan to do about the healthcare crisis?
Rudy with a pensive look: ...9/11
All applaud

Debate question: Rudy what do think about immigration?
Rudy: ...9/11
All applaud...


It's bullshit. I'm sick of this kind of government. OUR people have issues here that need to be attended to. Our domestic issues NEED to be fixed and Bush has successfully ignored them. Its not just Bush, I'm not stupid. But now we need a real leader to step up and clean this all out. We need someone who can work with both sides and get things done instead of spending trillions of dollars and making the US dollar worth less than the Canadian dollar.

I'm a staunch supporter of Barack Obama. I LOVE how the right wingers insist on calling him B. Hussein Obama. He has never gone by that. They use it in an attempt to liken him to Al Queda and Saddam but he's an American just like the rest of us. I've spent time with the man, personally, he was good friends with my college roommates father. He's an HONEST man..which I think we can all agree is important right now. I don't care if his name is Tinky Winky Bin Hussein Stalin Castro Fluffy the third. Its just a NAME.




Oh and I hate Hillary..

[AJ]

That's right just keep getting her all worked up.

[richw]

Obama is an empty suit with a grin on top

Next to him Hillary is a statesman. Personally I think he is a straw dog put up by Hillary to draw some fire.

Obama's best quote "Give me 5 dolla you alls got 5 dolla"

They are all lying... right and left there will be troops in Iraq for the next 50 years to protect our oil based economy. You want to leave Iraq build 200 nuke plants then we can leave. OOpps now the lefties have to take a pill and lie down.

Big Reds correct about Nixon guilty of a cover up; that's all

[highsider]

Originally Posted by Onlypastrana199

I don't care if his name is Tinky Winky Bin Hussein Stalin Castro Fluffy the third. Its just a NAME.

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by Onlypastrana199

Yeah I'm gonna vote for Rudy..thats a GREAT idea...considering it was HIS judgment that left about 200 firefighters without proper communication devices and ultimately lead to their deaths..then it also came out that they didn't have the respirators they were supposed to have. So...pretty much his leadership lead to 200 dead firefighters and people who are now sick and will be for the rest of their lives because they were trying to HELP other people. And what does Rudy say? I never read that report. ...great..didn't read it, how many other important documents is he going to skip over should he win the election? But no...he'll just continue to bask in his "heroism" over 9/11. WTF did he actually do down there anyway? Other than use it for his political agenda? What makes him a "hero" ?

Debate question: Rudy what do you plan to do about the healthcare crisis?
Rudy with a pensive look: ...9/11
All applaud

Debate question: Rudy what do think about immigration?
Rudy: ...9/11
All applaud...


It's bullshit. I'm sick of this kind of government. OUR people have issues here that need to be attended to. Our domestic issues NEED to be fixed and Bush has successfully ignored them. Its not just Bush, I'm not stupid. But now we need a real leader to step up and clean this all out. We need someone who can work with both sides and get things done instead of spending trillions of dollars and making the US dollar worth less than the Canadian dollar.

I'm a staunch supporter of Barack Obama. I LOVE how the right wingers insist on calling him B. Hussein Obama. He has never gone by that. They use it in an attempt to liken him to Al Queda and Saddam but he's an American just like the rest of us. I've spent time with the man, personally, he was good friends with my college roommates father. He's an HONEST man..which I think we can all agree is important right now. I don't care if his name is Tinky Winky Bin Hussein Stalin Castro Fluffy the third. Its just a NAME.




Oh and I hate Hillary..

i love it when the over educated types chime in...they seem to have the longests posts without saying anything. I will say the hostility in your posts is astounding...that just means your passionate...i can respect that.

Obama is an empty suit...people like him because he is young, carismatic and black. White guilt makes people want to like him and vote for him...the same guilt that got Imus fired....have you been watching the debates? If he doesn't start presenting himself like a leader he won't get the nomination.

Personally i think they should put both him and hillary on a island someplace and see what the democrats can come up with once they are gone.

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by richw

Obama is an empty suit with a grin on top

Next to him Hillary is a statesman. Personally I think he is a straw dog put up by Hillary to draw some fire.

Obama's best quote "Give me 5 dolla you alls got 5 dolla"

They are all lying... right and left there will be troops in Iraq for the next 50 years to protect our oil based economy. You want to leave Iraq build 200 nuke plants then we can leave. OOpps now the lefties have to take a pill and lie down.

Big Reds correct about Nixon guilty of a cover up; that's all

lol for the record i didnt read this post before i made mine...and no we arent reading the same "memo"

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

Obama is an empty suit...people like him because he is young, carismatic and black. White guilt makes people want to like him and vote for him...the same guilt that got Imus fired....have you been watching the debates? If he doesn't start presenting himself like a leader he won't get the nomination.

Personally i think they should put both him and hillary on a island someplace and see what the democrats can come up with once they are gone.

Thats really not a fair assessment of Obama. He is an educated, intelligent, successful politician, and I don't think there is any justification to calling him an "empty suit".

With that said, I am worried he might win the nomination, because I really dont think he has the experience (yet) to be President.

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by highsider

Thats really not a fair assessment of Obama. He is an educated, intelligent, successful politician, and I don't think there is any justification to calling him an "empty suit".

With that said, I am worried he might win the nomination, because I really dont think he has the experience (yet) to be President.

lol how can you tell me i'm not fair when you feel the same way...

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

lol how can you tell me i'm not fair when you feel the same way...

You called him an empty suit, I say I think he's a good politician, just not yet ready to be President.

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by highsider

You called him an empty suit, I say I think he's a good politician, just not yet ready to be President.

why do you think he is a good politician? serious question

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

why do you think he is a good politician? serious question

I am (unfortunately) on an e-mail list for a bunch of Democratic organizations, and for years I have been getting e-mails about Obama from back when he was just a Senator. He was very well-liked in his constituency, and I've always felt that is the measure of a good politician.

[bigred875]

ok then

[tonyd]

I have never understood the hype around Obama.