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Old 08-03-07, 01:28 PM
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CNN.com - CNN Political Ticker Tancredo: Threaten to bomb Muslim holy sites in retaliation «

"WASHINGTON (CNN) — Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo’s campaign stood by his assertion that bombing holy Muslim sites would serve as a good “deterrent” to prevent Islamic fundamentalists from attacking the United States, his spokeswoman said Friday.

“This shows that we mean business,” said Bay Buchanan, a senior Tancredo adviser. “There’s no more effective deterrent than that. But he is open-minded and willing to embrace other options. This is just a means to deter them from attacking us.”

On Tuesday, Tancredo warned a group of Iowans that another terrorist attack would “cause a worldwide economic collapse.” IowaPolitics.com recorded his comments.

“If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,” Tancredo said. “That is the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they would otherwise do. If I am wrong, fine, tell me, and I would be happy to do something else. But you had better find a deterrent, or you will find an attack.”

Tom Casey, a deputy spokesman for the State Department, told CNN’s Elise Labott that the congressman’s comments were “reprehensible” and “absolutely crazy.” Tancredo was widely criticized in 2005 for making a similar suggestion."


Ya know, I hate to admit this, but it does make SOME sense.....hit them in the only place they know. Unfortunately the 99.999999% of peace loving ones would then hate us too.
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Old 08-03-07, 01:36 PM
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Let's continue the trend that we are in and just do it and see what happens. Let's not think about all of the possible ramifications.

Dubya can figure it out i'm sure. He is after all our leader
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Old 08-03-07, 01:38 PM
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Wouldn't that dub Americans as terrorists then?
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I'm not *for* this idea....but I am intrigued by the idea of using terrorism against terrorists.
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Old 08-03-07, 02:10 PM
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mostly good idea. Find a strategic target that hurts them. Eye for an eye. if we must be in the situation and escalate it, we can't fight half assed and pussy foot around stuff.
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Come on, that's not reasonable at all. It would be like saying that for every abortion doctor that's killed, we would bomb a catholic church. There are millions of peaceful muslims in the world just like there are christians. You can't go blowing up their holy sites because some nutjob does something crazy "in the name of islam" any more than you can go blowing up christian sites because some nutjub does something crazy "in the name of christian family values".
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Besides these terrorists aren't hiding in the holy places. They are in hidden location out of the way. the only people who would be hurt are the innocent. Plus if they are willing to die for their religion then what do they care if you blow up a piece of land they aren't on anyway. Way to lead by exaple...dumbass!
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You can't go blowing up their holy sites because some nutjob does something crazy "in the name of islam" any more than you can go blowing up christian sites because some nutjub does something crazy "in the name of christian family values".
Wait, you can't?


Damn.
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mark my words:

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea.
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your only a terrorist if your on the wrong side
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Old 08-03-07, 10:30 PM
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I have a better, more effective idea...

Have all the troubled US auto manufacturers put out kick ass electic cars dirt cheap, and flood China and Europe with them too.

Stop backing Israel, they have enough nukes and weapons to defend themselves at this point, and let them all fight it out OVER THERE.
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Old 08-04-07, 05:47 AM
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Why don't we just build them a bunch of bridges, & get rid of them that way.
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Destroying holy sites is nothing new. Hell, they're doing it to their own sites now amongst themselves! The English did it to the colonists, the north & south did it to each other, 'we' did it in Cuba, the Germans did it all across Europe - twice. I think it's a great idea...
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Bombing the religous site should be on the table as only a retaliation of a major WMD stike

ww3 didn't happen because of mutually assured destruction MAD policy

I would make sure that Iran and others were on a list and knew that a wmd attack on the USA would result in total destructtion of their cities with out hesitation
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Come on, that's not reasonable at all. It would be like saying that for every abortion doctor that's killed, we would bomb a catholic church. There are millions of peaceful Muslims in the world just like there are Christians. You can't go blowing up their holy sites because some nutjob does something crazy "in the name of islam" any more than you can go blowing up christian sites because some nutjub does something crazy "in the name of christian family values".
there are? really?! where are they? Why haven't we heard from them? Why aren't they taking the upper hand and putting an end to the wacko's giving them a bad name?

speaking of christians.... they had problem very similar to what islam is going through now...

they had a bunch of crazy white farmers cutting holes in sheets, putting them over their heads and lynching black folks, burning crosses and blowing up jewish owned buildings and business...

Guess what happened next...

the christians threw them the fuck out....publicly and without compromises...as a matter a fact it was the crazy right wing'd protestants that lead the charge...

so again...where the fuck are the muslims....they can find a camera and a microphone when someone draws a cartoon of their god or takes naughty pictures of terrorists....but they can't find one to tell denounce the terrorists.

terrorist live among these peaceful muslims and they do nothing...Actually that isnt true...they protect them and hinder us from finding them....

I don't know about you, but if i was one of those peaceful muslims, I'd be doing everything i can to separate me from them as well as everything i could do to flush them out....

I don't know if this is a good idea or not....but it is an idea...again, coming from the republican side...still nothing from the democrats...

oh lol except that Obama said he would sit down and talk with the terrorists and unilaterally attack Pakistan...our ally....
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Ally?

Where is OSB?

Yeah, bullshit.

At least Obama had the nut to state the obvious. OR, lets invade every other country that doesn't admit to having OSB in it's borders! That's a better idea!

It's been SIX FUCKING YEARS. We still haven't captured the #1. The leader. The planner. The funder. He is in the mountains of Pakistan, right?

What is the holdup? Don't say diplomacy since that didn't fly with Iraq. Or is that we need permission to go after the person who is responsible for killing 3k americans on american soil? Lets say please a couple more times, that will work.
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so what you are saying is if OBL is caught terrorism goes away? pretty sure the problem will still be there...in fact probably more so if he was dead as the jihadists will be looking for blood, martyr him and reinforce want the leaders are brainwashing them into beleiving....

I do not know if he is in pakistan, but i do know that the pakistani gov't is our ally and working with us...

there is no single country to invade or person to capture...it is much bigger then that... that is the fundamental problem...people get so hell bent on the details they forget about the big picture...

terrorism aka islamic jihadism is EVERYWHERE!...in this country, england, france, pakistan, iraq etc etc etc....

That is what W means when he says war on terror....

we need to organize the gov't of these nations that have virtually been taken over by the terrorists.....this takes time....

what you do NOT do is reason with the nuts and aleinate that government factions....you do the opposite....and you certainly do not boumb your ally because some figure head is borrowed in someplace that happens to be in that country....
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I'm moving to Fiji!
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Is that the place with the giant stone heads?
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We shoulda left Iraq alone by your logic.
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Pakistan may declare state of emergency - Yahoo! News

Seems like they can't get shit done on their own.
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What do you want, a fucking phone call? Get your head out of your ass and stop watching so much fox news. There are 1.8 billion muslims, you think they're all trying to bomb the U.S. to oblivion? If they were, do you think terrorism would be as small a threat as it is now?

I'm a christian, of sorts. Do I agree with the shit the crackpot nutjob christians say? Fuck no. Is there anything I can do about that? Not really. Have you considered it might be the same with the muslims?

Crackpots and fanatics make news. Do you think the muslims are hearing about quiet, moderate christians like myself? No, they're reading and watching about the Jerry Fucking Falwells of the world, people who want to wipe out everyone who doesn't believe the exact same whackjob doctrine they do. Sound familiar? It should.

I have a major problem with any and all people who advocate violence in the name of religion. But I'd be very, very surprised if you found there to be a greater percentage of whackjob muslims advocating violence against those they don't understand than whackjob christians.

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there are? really?! where are they? Why haven't we heard from them? Why aren't they taking the upper hand and putting an end to the wacko's giving them a bad name?

speaking of christians.... they had problem very similar to what islam is going through now...

they had a bunch of crazy white farmers cutting holes in sheets, putting them over their heads and lynching black folks, burning crosses and blowing up jewish owned buildings and business...

Guess what happened next...

the christians threw them the fuck out....publicly and without compromises...as a matter a fact it was the crazy right wing'd protestants that lead the charge...

so again...where the fuck are the muslims....they can find a camera and a microphone when someone draws a cartoon of their god or takes naughty pictures of terrorists....but they can't find one to tell denounce the terrorists.

terrorist live among these peaceful muslims and they do nothing...Actually that isnt true...they protect them and hinder us from finding them....

I don't know about you, but if i was one of those peaceful muslims, I'd be doing everything i can to separate me from them as well as everything i could do to flush them out....

I don't know if this is a good idea or not....but it is an idea...again, coming from the republican side...still nothing from the democrats...

oh lol except that Obama said he would sit down and talk with the terrorists and unilaterally attack Pakistan...our ally....
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What do you want, a fucking phone call? Get your head out of your ass and stop watching so much fox news. There are 1.8 billion muslims, you think they're all trying to bomb the U.S. to oblivion? If they were, do you think terrorism would be as small a threat as it is now?

I'm a christian, of sorts. Do I agree with the shit the crackpot nutjob christians say? Fuck no. Is there anything I can do about that? Not really. Have you considered it might be the same with the muslims?

Crackpots and fanatics make news. Do you think the muslims are hearing about quiet, moderate christians like myself? No, they're reading and watching about the Jerry Fucking Falwells of the world, people who want to wipe out everyone who doesn't believe the exact same whackjob doctrine they do. Sound familiar? It should.

I have a major problem with any and all people who advocate violence in the name of religion. But I'd be very, very surprised if you found there to be a greater percentage of whackjob muslims advocating violence against those they don't understand than whackjob christians.
then why the FUCK is osama bin laden still an upstanding member of their chruch, still recognized as a cleric or whatever he is....why don't they give him up?

why dont the muslims in this country give up the terrorists in THIS country?

and say all you want about the christians...i made my point about them....atleast they had the balls to step up and do something about the crazy rednecks in the KKK....when christian terrorist killed people they publically made them outcasts.... either the muslims are cowards...or they are with them...

fuck a phone call...i want them to do something.... anything....all they manage to do is complain about how horrible we are...
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then why the FUCK is osama bin laden still an upstanding member of their chruch, still recognized as a cleric or whatever he is....why don't they give him up?
Jerry Falwell....

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals, it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.”

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" (about 9/11)

And ya know what? People in our country love him.

That is why people in other countries love OBL. They give them a place to aim their hatred, frustration and blame. Hitler did it. He took a country filled with a vast majority of decent people and grew the hatred by placing blame for their downfalls on others.
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do i really have to spell out the differences between falwell and obl?

new low?
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