[bigred875]

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Mickey Kaus has raised the intriguing possibility that, since Bush's amnesty plan went down to humiliating defeat once Americans got wind of what the elites had planned for us, the Bush administration might respond by intentionally targeting highly sympathetic illegal aliens for deportation "in as clumsy, heartless and lawsuit-inspiring a fashion as possible, in order to create the maximum number of negative headlines."

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff described anti-amnesty Americans as being satisfied with nothing less than "the death penalty" for illegal aliens and recently warned of "some unhappy consequences" unless illegal aliens were granted amnesty. Yes, that Michael Chertoff -- the guy in charge of keeping us safe from foreign invasions.

So it was curious when we were treated this week to a weeping Mexican woman on TV, claiming the U.S. government was tearing her from her infant son and saying she knew the American people would be outraged if she were deported. (I note that her message might have been more effective in English.)

Admittedly, I'd just as soon have Homeland Security focusing on illegal immigrants like the one who shot four promising college kids execution style in Newark, killing three of them, possibly after sexually molesting two of them. Heck, I wouldn't have minded if they had deported Jose Carranza even before his girlfriend accused him of raping her 5-year-old daughter.

Or Ruben Hernandez-Juarez, an illegal alien charged with sexually molesting a 6-year-old boy in Martin County, Fla.

Or Alejandro Bautista, an illegal alien in Cook County, Ill., who was convicted for sexually molesting two teenaged boys.

Or Alejandro Xuya-Sian, the illegal alien who hit a pedestrian with his car in New York and dragged him for nearly a mile before dislodging the victim from his car, throwing him aside and driving off again. (Even more disturbing: Xuya-Sian may not have been wearing his seat belt at the time.)

Or illegal alien Alberto Barajas-Enriquez, who is charged with beating his Michigan neighbor to death with a golf club because the neighbor complained about the constant barking of Enriquez's dog. Asked by police how many times he struck his victim with the golf club, Enriquez said, "Let's see ... five, six ... uh, put me down for a seven."

Or Lucio Sanchez-Martinez, the illegal alien in Ohio charged with sexually molesting a sleeping 8-year-old girl.

For simplicity, I have limited my enumeration of illegal aliens I would like deported to those who were charged or convicted of heinous crimes last week. For illegal aliens charged with child molestation, I had to limit it to two days last week.

Still, if Elvira Arellano is the best they've got to change public opinion on deporting illegal aliens, don't expect public opinion to change anytime soon.

Arellano has already snuck into the country illegally twice (that we know of). After being deported in 1999 -- under an administration that, astonishingly, was more serious about enforcing immigration law than the current one -- she illegally ran across the border again a few days later.

Only after 9/11 was she arrested again and convicted for using a stolen Social Security number to get a job as a cleaning woman at an airport. In lieu of jail time, Arellano was to be deported. Instead she took refuge in a left-wing "church" and began to bellyache about being thrown out again.

Despite living in this country illegally for a decade, Arellano hasn't mastered the most rudimentary English. She doesn't want to assimilate and become a "Mexican-American." She wants to be a Mexican-Mexican living in and off America.

So far, the only thing Arellano has contributed to America is one illegitimate child.

Arellano is part of the advance wave of left-wing, Third World colonization of America. Democrats claim there are "two Americas." If they have their way, there will be two Latin Americas.

Population expert Nick Eberstadt recently speculated in The Washington Post that a principal reason for America's high fertility rate compared to Europe's is its religiosity. Well, that leaves liberals out.

The Democratic Party is in the fight of its life against a conservative demographic trend. Its only hope is to gerrymander America to make the poorest half of Mexico a state. Only a massive influx of criminals, wards of the state and rioters can save them.

This is why Democrats are obsessed with giving two groups the right to vote: illegal aliens and felons. With Arellano, they get two for the price of one. To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.

Democrats are counting on illegal immigrants to be the future of their party, their border guards for the new socialist state. At least liberals have a clear mission and know what they're fighting for. Their plan is to destroy America.

Karl Rove's only response is: "I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."

Arellano can go, and take her kid with her.

[ZX-12R]

I really don't care if it breaks up families. They should have thought about that consequence before sneaking over here and procreating.

Damn that concept of personal responsibility!

[bigred875]

fwiw - i don't beleive we should "round up" all the illegals and deport them...but i think something needs to be done to stop the invasion and we should most definately stop embracing and supporting illegal aliens....

[highsider]

I liked Bush's amnesty plan. It was one of a miserly few things he did right.

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by highsider

I liked Bush's amnesty plan. It was one of a miserly few things he did right.

thats because you are socialist hippie like your senator next door

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

thats because you are socialist hippie like your senator next door

Socialist, maybe. Hippie - NO.

Look, it was the best, most workable plan anyone has come up with. The Democrats (nor anyone else for that matter) have not offered up a reasonable plan. If we granted the ones already here amnesty, we could keep track of them and keep them on visas. We could then slam the door shut behind them, build a wall or whateverthefuck, and we'd be no worse off than we are now.

Also, I stand by my comment that there would be so many Mexicans here if there weren't so many lazy Americans. From what I understand (though there are few illegals who bother with coming to Vermont), illegals are excellent workers. Give them a visa, use their labor, and perhaps it might have a positive effect on the economy from small businesses doing better.

[VinceF2]

Get a bus.... I'll drive...

but that may be a slanted view of the situation...

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by highsider

Socialist, maybe. Hippie - NO.

Look, it was the best, most workable plan anyone has come up with. The Democrats (nor anyone else for that matter) have not offered up a reasonable plan. If we granted the ones already here amnesty, we could keep track of them and keep them on visas. We could then slam the door shut behind them, build a wall or whateverthefuck, and we'd be no worse off than we are now.

Also, I stand by my comment that there would be so many Mexicans here if there weren't so many lazy Americans. From what I understand (though there are few illegals who bother with coming to Vermont), illegals are excellent workers. Give them a visa, use their labor, and perhaps it might have a positive effect on the economy from small businesses doing better.

it was a horrible plan that rewarded people for breaking the law...the longer you broke the law for the easier it was on you lol...pure bullshit and a kick in the nuts to everyone who got here legally...

Mexicans are here because corporate america is using them in the same fashion cotton farmers used the slaves...slavery was abolished and the cotton gin was invented.... That is a pure copout....americans would do those jobs if the pay was there and there were benefits...you dont need to make that much money when you share an apt with 10 people and the person renting it pays $100/mo because they get section 8 benefits... and they do not need medical benefits because they go to the emergency room and stick them with the bill...then they send their money "home"...

you can make as many excuses as you want for them....but they are a drain on our society...

[highsider]

Originally Posted by bigred875

it was a horrible plan that rewarded people for breaking the law...the longer you broke the law for the easier it was on you lol...pure bullshit and a kick in the nuts to everyone who got here legally...

Mexicans are here because corporate america is using them in the same fashion cotton farmers used the slaves...slavery was abolished and the cotton gin was invented.... That is a pure copout....americans would do those jobs if the pay was there and there were benefits...you dont need to make that much money when you share an apt with 10 people and the person renting it pays $100/mo because they get section 8 benefits... and they do not need medical benefits because they go to the emergency room and stick them with the bill...then they send their money "home"...

you can make as many excuses as you want for them....but they are a drain on our society...

I totally agree with everything you said. But I think that the situation is become unmanageable, and Bush had a good idea for how to make it manageable. It wasn't ideal, obviously, but it was a workable solution to a growing prpblem.

[bigred875]

how's the quote go...those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeatr it...we have done the amnisty thing before...the democrats suckered reagan into it and look where it got us.....

the solution is easy...enforce the law....and punish any business that hires and illegal. Make it illegal for them to have drivers licenses, punish anyone who rents to an illegal....

if there are no jobs and no place to live they would just leave...we would not have to do anything to deport them.....

fuck, my company is a good example....it is no secret that the cleaning and landscaping staff here are 95% illegal....most dont speak even the most basic english. As a corporation i think they get away with it because they are sub-contracted out.....still bullshit...they should shutdown the company that is hiring them....

it just goes to show how they play the politics...this shouldnt be a rep vs. dem issue, we are all effected...much like the war on terror and the environment....

[richw]

Rich W Plan

Guest worker Visa's for produce pickers...1 year renewal
undocumented; farmer gets mandatory $5000.00 fine

Other illegals have 18 months to remove themselves from USA

After 18 less then 3 years there is a bounty of $ 500 an illegal payable to anyone turning them in including licensed officers on duty

After 3 years bounty goes to $2000 per head repeat offenders get jail time etc.

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Undocumented arrivals on other means such as planes or boats etc. get put back on the next plane by that airline regardless of destination.

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Someone start through a supreme court challenge to the born in the USA interpretation of the 14 Amendment that originally only had the guarantee that freed slaves were citizens