[bigred875]

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[ZX-12R]

The USKKK of A. What a nutbag. The people who listen to and believe in his diatribe aren't the brightest bulbs either.

I'm surprised it took so long for Obama's association with him to surface.

[bigred875]

what do you mean?

What Tami Said: The truth about Barack Obama's church
Trinity United Church of Christ

[richw]

First President of The Black Americans

First Black American President


Duh ?


He really thought that the media would quash this. Like when his wife said by corollary that she was never proud of America. (note free ride at 2 of America's finest university didn't do it for her). The NY Times did the torpedo on Mc Cain possible associations to get Ma Obama of the front page.

I guess the NY Times didn't have a 2nd dirty trick to pull out of their files.


I want change...... 3 quarters and a dime would be nice

[bigred875]

While Obama's thought's about Rev. Wright are interesting

Obama says that rather than advising him on strategy, Wright helps keep his priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated.

"What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics."

Never mind the fact he's gone to that church for 20 years, Wright married him and his wife...baptized his kids, gave him the title for his book......but what is really REALLY troubling to me is, how many people in this country agree with him? I'm not going to post them cuz we've all seen them...but have you heard the people cheering in the back ground of those sermons?

No matter what Obama says to try and cover his tracks we know how he and his wife feel

“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country,” she told a Milwaukee crowd today, “because it feels like hope is making a comeback.”

[TheIglu]

As long as he isn't a "Reborn Christian", I could care if he was part of the friggin Taliban.

[DucDave]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

As long as he isn't a "Reborn Christian", I could care if he was part of the friggin Taliban.

...man...I hear that...in fact, I suggest we put the 10% most fundamentalist Born Agains on an island with the 10% most fundamentalist Muslims...and don't let em off til they sort it all out...

[bigred875]

interesting

[Kham]

is obama really the odd ball of the bunch? they're all family members so dont know what the heck that means. can he really say no to them? dont look good.

[TheIglu]

Once again, another example of how religious figures seem to think they matter in the least bit to how the world functions.

[Kham]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Once again, another example of how religious figures seem to think they matter in the least bit to how the world functions.

aren't we fighting religious freak in mideast? a believe so strong that you can't change. how about the dems and rep. believe?

[OreoGitorio]

I'm voting for Nader.

[TheIglu]

Yup.

Would suck to be like them, wouldn't it.

[Kham]

here's an interesting read.

Anderson Cooper 360: Blog Archive - White men and the Obama campaign « - Blogs from CNN.com

from articles and comments.

change change change... haha

"When I asked him what it will take for Obama to win the working class white man’s vote here, he said, “He’s gotta come out and talk to us and tell us what he wants to do with the economy. I don’t know if he said anything. All I hear is, change, change, what type of change does he got for us? I don’t know. Is he gonna tell us he wants more construction jobs.”

Wully Bully March 18th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

I was in favor of Obama until I heard his pastor.
I will never vote for a racist for President. Obama and all his church are nothing but racist.
If my church put out a sign which read “unashamedly White” would that seem racist to anyone?
I won’t vote for hate.
The END

[richw]

Kham are you a radical Buddhist ?

[TheIglu]

What does the President have to do with the economy?

[Kham]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

What does the President have to do with the economy?

he can sign the stimulus package to stimulate the economy. duh?

[Kham]

Originally Posted by richw

Kham are you a radical Buddhist ?

a radical buddhist from my place of origin would shave their head, wear orange robe, stay in temple, don't eat super, and just meditate. they're call monk.

im not much of radical anything. i just want good paying job and retire soon.

[Kham]

i see nobody wants to talk about this stuff. lets see if i get this right. so basically this is what sen. Obama said. racist is real.. rev. Wright gave racist sermon because of anger over slavery so don't condemn without understanding. sen. Obama strongly disagree but he's a family so lets just move on.

edit: i think there's more to this than just that clip but i think he's right about denying your mother. i never agree with anything my mother said but i feel responsible.

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by Kham

he can sign the stimulus package to stimulate the economy. duh?

Yup.

Duh is the correct word.

Why would we need to keep cutting rates if the "stimulus package" was actually working? People already know they are getting the money.

[richw]

radical buddhist was supposed to be a funny oxymoron

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by Kham

i see nobody wants to talk about this stuff. lets see if i get this right. so basically this is what sen. Obama said. racist is real.. rev. Wright gave racist sermon because of anger over slavery so don't condemn without understanding. sen. Obama strongly disagree but he's a family so lets just move on.

edit: i think there's more to this than just that clip but i think he's right about denying your mother. i never agree with anything my mother said but i feel responsible.

i would like to but as soon as you open your mouth about it you are a racist....apparently only white people can be racists..

more disturbing then his words is the mindset from which those words are derived from....obama may not say those radical things...but does he think them and not say anything because he knows it will label him as a radical? How many in the black community feel the same way as the people in this church but just dont say anything.

we all know people and have friends that say outrageously racist things at times...i cringe and tell them to shut up....these people give a standing ovation......the reaction to his words are more disturbing to me then the actual words...

[Pittenger5]

This is another reason I hate politics, so many things that shouldnt compound the issues do. I dont care what people are him say, just what he says. My moms an idiot and says all sorts of stupid things, do I agree, no, but shes family doesnt mean I deny all connection to her.
And the new New York govener that had an affair, I dont give a shit, can he run the state? If yes, then bang who you want

[bigred875]

i know what you are saying but i think this is bigger then that...you can't choose your mom...but you can and do choose your pastor. The pastor at a church is the biggest draw to that church. People change churches when pastors change. You dont sit and listen to someone for 20+ years and not agree with their beliefs he may have never heard this talk at a sermon...but i he certainly knows how the pastor truely feels.

It would also be one thing is he casually went to chruch and really didnt know Wright but that is not the case here...

[Kham]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5

And the new New York govener that had an affair, I dont give a shit, can he run the state? If yes, then bang who you want

comon you know better. i dont care either but he paid for sex and that's against the law. he should just bang then leave and call it consent. Bill Clinton didn't pay but he went through the shame process because of some joulous fuck.