[zombie]

Originally Posted by richw

70's gas lines were the stations were out of gas

Tree huggers want you to stay home for them its a win win


If they were honest then 50 mpg cars should be immune from epa bs


alm ost half the energy you consume is in heating your residence. Converting french fry oil to diesel is more lefty trendy bs. It could be thrown into power plants as is and burned.

the world is laughing at you. We won't drill we won't burn coal. we won't burn sulphur bearing fuels diesel or coal. We won't build neuclear plants They don't care now that china or india will buy their output. If you commute and own a home you can lay your soon to be 12000 a year enrgy bill at the feet of your lefty tree huggers... Maybe they will let you look at a picture of anwar

isn't it time for you to get in the soylent green line ya grumpy old fuck

[R7]

Originally Posted by zombie

isn't it time for you to get in the soylent green line ya grumpy old fuck

[Rossy83]

Originally Posted by richw

Converting french fry oil to diesel is more lefty trendy bs.

+1 as soon as enough people want the stuff they will start charging for it.

How would fuel rationing help anything? OPEC can just cut production again... If the gov't is controlling how much you can drive it isn't going to change your need for fuel whatever the cost, and you can bet OPEC will keep supply below demand. Or we can all drive electric cars and just burn all the fuel in the power plants and say we are doing great things for the environment!

As for Soylent Green that movie was terrible, but had an interesting message.

[richw]

Convert liberals into fuel

If they can do it with cow manure they are 1/2 way home.


Soylent diesel is people

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by richw

the world is laughing at you. We won't drill we won't burn coal. we won't burn sulphur bearing fuels diesel or coal. We won't build neuclear plants They don't care now that china or india will buy their output. If you commute and own a home you can lay your soon to be 12000 a year enrgy bill at the feet of your lefty tree huggers... Maybe they will let you look at a picture of anwar

Maybe you can.

More bitching without solutions Rich, I expected more from you.

[bigred875]

i have a question....why? nothing about this makes any sense to me...the 70's oil crisis was sparked because we didnt think we were going to be able to buy oil from oapec...that is not what is going on here..there is plenty of oil...the problem is that india and china are raising the demands which raises the price....i'm not that smart but thats sounds a lot like high school economics to me...

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Maybe you can.

More bitching without solutions Rich, I expected more from you.

he gave you the answers in his post..stop bending over to appease the tree huggers and their politically motived agendas...

[richw]

In the past we were the most important customer to OPEC

Additionally if motivated back then we could have become energy independent.

So we had to be treated like porcupine sex.

Today..

Our society has proclaimed we will NOT become energy independent because we refuse to do what is required.... Not windmills etc. dipsticks.

2ndly

They have vast emerging markets that will buy their oil for cash so supporting our economy and the US dollar has great reduced influence.

3rd

If we have reached peak output of oil then they look to a future where oil is a raw material not a fuel thus commanding higher pricing.

Our industrial base is already nearly destroyed and the liberals play on. It will take a great depression fueled by macrame bicycles ridden by hollow eyed waifs to their chinese masters house before the Gaeist even question their dogma.

[wylee]

Originally Posted by richw

If you commute and own a home you can lay your soon to be 12000 a year enrgy bill at the feet of your lefty tree huggers... Maybe they will let you look at a picture of anwar

I'm so close to that now...

My energy bill has more to do with child support and home ownership.

Try paying 25% of income for child support, then qualify for a mortgage staying under 36% total debt to income ratio....It either makes for a hell of a long commute, or a rental where debt to income ratio isn't a factor.

Fuckin' NH!

It could be worse. Atleast I don't live in MA, NJ, or CA.

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by bigred875

he gave you the answers in his post..stop bending over to appease the tree huggers and their politically motived agendas...

Since when were you in this thread?

[bigred875]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Since when were you in this thread?

i had been trying to stay out of it

the whole gas price/oil company issue annoys the hell out of me lol

[Honclfibr]

I wish the damn liberal hippy tree huggers would let me dump my chamber pot onto the street so I didn't have to pay all this money for indoor plumbing.

[bigred875]

chamber pots are so last century

[TheIglu]

Be efficient! Just shit in the street!

[bigred875]

eliminate the middle man!

[Honclfibr]

I'd love to, but you think that would fly with the politically motivated granola eaters at the EPA? Pfft...

Fuck you EPA, a bear shits in the woods, why can't I shit in the streets?

[TheIglu]

I might turd on the track during the Classic weekend this year. Does that count?

[RandyO]

Originally Posted by Honclfibr

I'd love to, but you think that would fly with the politically motivated granola eaters at the EPA? Pfft...

Fuck you EPA, a bear shits in the woods, why can't I shit in the streets?

Bear shits in streets too, and gets away with it

[Honclfibr]

We field a whole grid of turds for PTWN, what's one more?

[Wishbone]

Wait, wait, wait!

Soilent Green is people????

[RandyO]

Originally Posted by richw

Convert liberals into fuel

If they can do it with cow manure they are 1/2 way home.


Soylent diesel is people

not so far fetched, isn't lye used in the process of converting biodiesel?



New idea in mortuary science: Dissolving bodies with lye

By NORMA LOVE
AP Writer


Article Date: Friday, May 9, 2008


Brad Crain, president of BioSafe Engineering, stands by one of the company's steel cylinders in Brownsburg, Ind. Monday. Since they first walked the planet, humans have either buried or burned their dead. Now a new option using one of these cyclinders is generating interest: dissolving bodies. (AP Photo Michael Conroy)





CONCORD — Since they first walked the planet, humans have either buried or burned their dead. Now a new option is generating interest — dissolving bodies in lye and flushing the brownish, syrupy residue down the drain.

The process is called alkaline hydrolysis and was developed in this country 16 years ago to get rid of animal carcasses. It uses lye, 300-degree heat and 60 pounds of pressure per square inch to destroy bodies in big stainless-steel cylinders that are similar to pressure cookers.

No funeral homes in the U.S. — or anywhere else in the world, as far as the equipment manufacturer knows — offer it. In fact, only two U.S. medical centers use it on human bodies, and only on cadavers donated for research.

But because of its environmental advantages, some in the funeral industry say it could someday rival burial and cremation.

"It's not often that a truly game-changing technology comes along in the funeral service," the newsletter Funeral Service Insider said in September. But "we might have gotten a hold of one."

Getting the public to accept a process that strikes some as ghastly may be the biggest challenge. Psychopaths and dictators have used acid or lye to torture or erase their victims, and legislation to make alkaline hydrolysis available to the public in New York state was branded "Hannibal Lecter's bill" in a play on the sponsor's name — Sen. Kemp Hannon — and the movie character's sadism.

Alkaline hydrolysis is legal in Minnesota and in New Hampshire, where a Manchester funeral director is pushing to offer it. But he has yet to line up the necessary regulatory approvals, and some New Hampshire lawmakers want to repeal the little-noticed 2006 state law legalizing it.

"We believe this process, which enables a portion of human remains to be flushed down a drain, to be undignified," said Patrick McGee, a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Manchester.

State Rep. Barbara French said she, for one, might choose alkaline hydrolysis.

"I'm getting near that age and thought about cremation, but this is equally as good and less of an environmental problem," the 81-year-old lawmaker said. "It doesn't bother me any more than being burned up. Cremation, you're burned up. I've thought about it, but I'm dead."

In addition to the liquid, the process leaves a dry bone residue similar in appearance and volume to cremated remains. It could be returned to the family in an urn or buried in a cemetery.

The coffee-colored liquid has the consistency of motor oil and a strong ammonia smell. But proponents say it is sterile and can, in most cases, be safely poured down the drain, provided the operation has the necessary permits.

Alkaline hydrolysis doesn't take up as much space in cemeteries as burial. And the process could ease concerns about crematorium emissions, including carbon dioxide as well as mercury from silver dental fillings.

The University of Florida in Gainesville and the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., have used alkaline hydrolysis to dispose of cadavers since the mid-1990s and 2005, respectively.

Brad Crain, president of BioSafe Engineering, the Brownsburg, Ind., company that makes the steel cylinders, estimated 40 to 50 other facilities use them on human medical waste, animal carcasses or both. The users include veterinary schools, universities, pharmaceutical companies and the U.S. government.

Liquid waste from cadavers goes down the drain at the both the Mayo Clinic and the University of Florida, as does the liquid residue from human tissue and animal carcasses at alkaline hydrolysis sites elsewhere.

Manchester funeral director Chad Corbin wants to operate a $300,000 cylinder in New Hampshire. He said that an alkaline hydrolysis operation is more expensive to set up than a crematorium but that he would charge customers about as much as he would for cremation.

George Carlson, an industrial-waste manager for the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, said things the public might find more troubling routinely flow into sewage treatment plants in the U.S. all the time. That includes blood and spillover embalming fluid from funeral homes.

The department issued a permit to Corbin last year, but he let the deal on the property fall through because of delays in getting the other necessary permits. Now he must go through the process all over again, and there is gathering resistance. But he said he is undeterred.

"I don't not know how long it will take," he said recently, "but eventually it will happen."

[Nix]

FOXNews.com - Energy Department Cancels Oil Shipments to Government Reserves Beginning in July - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Hmmmm...

[bigred875]

yeah i found that article..closest thing i could find...then i read this "The reserve is 97 percent full, holding 701 million barrels of crude."

if this has any effect it should contribute to lowering the price of oil..if we stop buying for the reserve..the demand goes down

[Nix]

Originally Posted by bigred875

yeah i found that article..closest thing i could find...then i read this "The reserve is 97 percent full, holding 701 million barrels of crude."

if this has any effect it should contribute to lowering the price of oil..if we stop buying for the reserve..the demand goes down

[bigred875]

lol dont hold your breath...