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    Every friggin' year, the igniter on our propane furnace burns out. The furnace isn't our primary source of heat as we heat with wood (tee hee...'wood'). But it is nice to have as a back up, or just to have when we get lazy and feel like taking a night or two off from manning the woodstove. But like I said, every year it burns out. Every friggin' year!

    The furnace is less than five years old and it's rated as a 'super effecient' model by the UL. But why the fuck does the igniter keep burning out? Could it possibly be because we don't run it enough?

    Anybody? Anybody?

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    Hey, at least it's being "super efficient"...

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    Originally posted by ShredHed
    Hey, at least it's being "super efficient"...
    Ya kak!

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    He he.
    Okay after thinkin' about it I remember having a discussion a week or two ago with a guy who had similar problem. Now everything I say may be way off the mark, but I'll give it a go... (may not be technically correct, may not even be close...)

    I think that in order for the pilot light to stay lit, it needs to heat a metal component (replaceable) that expands & contracts. If the pilot light is lit, it heats this component and the component expands and does something to keep the gas flowing to the pilot light. If the pilot light goes out, the component contracts(cools off) and shuts off the gas going to the jet for the pilot light. If the "component" is hosed, the pilot light doesn't work 'cause it gets no gas(positive/negative feedback loop). If I'm right about the above, maybe it relates to your problem. Dunno like I said I don't remember conversation well and I ain't a furnace buff.
    Other than that, is the pilot light jet clogged?

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    All makes sense to me. It's got an electronic ignitor and that sounds like just the problem I'm having, so I'll buy it. Never checked the pilot jets though. I don't like fuckin' around with gas of any sort, especially if it's piped into my house...

    It's really not that big a deal. Like I said, our primary heat source is firewood. But it's nice to have the option of immediate hot air when the need arises...

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    Before you buy sumpin' you may wanna check with someone that know's what their talkin' 'bout though, like I said I could have it all backwards...

    Good luck anyhow!

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    Stoneman, from reading the post it sound like Shredhed is talking about the pilot safety(thermocouple). Which is just that, if it doesn't sense the heat from the pilot it assumes that there is no flame and shuts of the gas to prevent explosion from another source of ignition. Now the question, do you have Electronic ignition (basically a spark plug ) or piloted ignition (flame)?

    If its pilot, the thermocouple will usually let go after a year or two ( from my own experiance ).
    If its electronic, like the boiler ignitors at work they should last quite some time. Which would mean they need to be looked at to find the cause for the failure.

    Hope this might have helped....

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    It's a pilot, but the pilot is lit electronically. I don't know what the fuck that means, it's just what it says...

    It's a cheap fix. Just wondering why it happens just about every friggin' year...

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    Cause there cheap just like ya said....

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    I have a pilot on my tankless gas hot water, should it go out, it has an electronic ignition to relite it similar to a gas grill, occasionally (about once every 2 years) the pilot will start going out, I have to take a screen off that surround the pilot jet and blow it out with air, as the screen gets clogged with dust, insufficient air is available to mix with the gas for combustion.

    the tankless gas hot water I have in my office is electronic ignition, the is no pilot, it has a spark device that ignits the flame, haven't had any problem with it yet, except when the electric circuit that runs it had a tripped GFI that was behind some file cabinets

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    DUDE!
    Sounds like your cam lobes are worn!
    Look for aluminum chips in the gas line!

    Bwaaaaa!

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    Stoneman, ya ever find out the fix?

    So what wuz wrong? Outa gas?

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    Hee hee...forgot about this thread...

    It wasn't the igniter this time, it was the control module. I won't even get into the nightmare of dealing with EASTERN PROPANE'S service dep't. But I will tell you that I took an entire day off from work for NOTHING. And after they told me it could be a few days before they got the part, I found it myself the next day and installed it myself. If I had waited for them, I woulda gone almost another week without the back-up furnace due to their 'Thanksgiving break'...

    BTW-HUGE props to Chartier Plumbing & Heating in Merrimack, NH. It's my uncle's place, and they got me the part. They also advised me to install it myself and gave me some great tips on how to...

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