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    Car Alignment Question


    Good peoples of NESR... Do any of you have Alignment shop experience?

    Brought my wife's Jeep into Town Fair Tire (I know, I know) for 4 new tires and an alignment.

    I suspected it needed a toe adjustment and before we went in, I put paint marks on the rod ends and jam nuts so I could see if they had been adjusted.

    Sure enough it measured needing toe, the report shows a toe adjustment and the paint marks look like the jam nuts had not been loosened. Hollaaaaaaa!

    Before I call them with ye ole WTF, is there something I'm missing, like another way to adjust toe?
    To be fair, it does look like the right jam nut might have cracked the paint mark, but it still lines up pretty much perfectly.
    Maybe it's possible that they made the adjustment there and it was so slight that the nut/rod end still line up?
    Seems kind of unlikely, but I have next to no idea what I'm talking about

    Thank you. Beet is naked.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Well that's interesting cuz toe was only out on one side and the paint was cracked on one side..
    Was it on the correct side.?

    Also, how does it drive now?
    They will do it for free too I believe if you go back and say it isn't straight..
    You can get another print out..
    Using a thin line of gms would work better than paint

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Quote Originally Posted by caloots View Post
    Well that's interesting cuz toe was only out on one side and the paint was cracked on one side..
    Was it on the correct side.?

    Also, how does it drive now?
    They will do it for free too I believe if you go back and say it isn't straight..
    You can get another print out..
    Using a thin line of gms would work better than paint

    https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

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    Adjustment on the left, paint cracked on the right.
    Seems like it drives OK. I'm out a whopping $59 for the work, so no big deal there. Just don't want the thing to eat a set of new tires.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    That's interesting..

    Exactly.. U don't want to destroy new tires..
    So did they give you a new print out that was green?

    U cud simply just call them out on it..
    Ask why left toe was out but no adj was made

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Mike View Post
    Adjustment on the left, paint cracked on the right.
    Seems like it drives OK. I'm out a whopping $59 for the work, so no big deal there. Just don't want the thing to eat a set of new tires.
    Iíve been doing alignments for nearly 20 years, the readings are setup to make it appear worse then it actually was (kinda like when a dyno guy does the pulls in different gears to make it look like a huge improvement). If you look at the before steer ahead, that is how centered the steering is, if he turned the wheel a bit so it was at zero like the after is, the numbers would probably be very similar. Now there is a chance he did actually make a small adjustment, it doesnít take much when itís very close like those readings are.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    ^^^SO MUCH THIS

    They turned the steering wheel off to the left and sold you an alignment and then turned the wheel straight.

    Unless...your alignment was correct and your steering wheel was slightly crooked relative. So the before measurement might have been with the steering wheel level in the tech's eyes and then the toe adjusted back to match. However, my first suggestion is more likely if the paint marks line up still.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Also, The jamb nut will always lock up the same. The adjustment member is inside the jamb nut. Your paint mark is in the wrong place to show adjustment. It needed to be on the threaded portion.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Rada View Post
    Also, The jamb nut will always lock up the same. The adjustment member is inside the jamb nut. Your paint mark is in the wrong place to show adjustment. It needed to be on the threaded portion.

    My thought was I'd see the paint crack, but you're right. I'd know for sure wether or not it got adjusted if I put the mark on the threads.

    Thanks guys. She's just gonna drive it a bit. If it seems like it still needs anything we'll bring it to a pro.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    According to the machine your car IS straight, so as long as the wheel is level when you're going straight then there's no need to go anywhere else.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    The car can still be straight with toe being out and that will wear the tires

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Quote Originally Posted by caloots View Post
    The car can still be straight with toe being out and that will wear the tires

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    Are you speaking generally, or about the OP's car? If generally, I'd agree, but OP has the printout showing that it measures basically straight. If a customer were paying me, I'd probably have attempted to adjust the rear toe to be more even as well, but that's me being OCD.

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    Re: Car Alignment Question

    Ohh.. I'm not saying they don't need to adj it..
    If toe is out, they need to correct it but toe won't cause a car to pull.. When it's out on one side, it will just equalize between the two tires but it will cause them to wear..

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