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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping


    Quote Originally Posted by PhilB View Post
    20 or so years ago I brewed a couple batches of long mead from a friend's fresh homegrown honey. They were fantastic.

    (A long mead is made like wine, takes about 18 months start to drinkable. Short meads are brewed (and taste) more like an ale, and only take a few weeks to make.)

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    last weekend, I had some of the mead my GFs daughter made from our honey, while it tastes ok, she won't be making that recipe again, there is lavender in it and has the odor of drinking perfume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Maybe the Russian genes are better and sturdier

    Could you get a bucket of wild flower seeds maybe to spread the available food ?
    Russian bees are hardier in cold weather and one of the more hygenic strains of bees, the biggest negative with them is that they tend to swarm more often

    Carniolan queens limit the hives size to surrounding food availability, Italian queens are whores, they lay eggs and more eggs, and the hive grows and grows and grows

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    My neighbor wants to try it, but it's not something I want to try..only because the honey value pure is far greater IMHO, and it costs quite a bit to take care of the bees. The fluid value of the honey this season for me was $120.00 per gallon....next season I'm probably going to up it again to the $150 range

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    As I posted before, not sure if the one hive I have left will survive the winter or not, at least the roof hasn't blown off like last winter, this year, I topped it off with a rock for weight

    last week, I ordered a bee package for April 23 pickup and a Russian queen, all sold out of Carniolan queens that I prefer,
    I'm in the same situation, I'll probably order one just because. The local guy wants $98.00 a package this year!
    As of last week, both of mine were alive and flying around on one of the warm days. They seems strong, but I know the hives are low, and I know i've had mouse trouble this year with all the snow (they chewed through the wood reducer). I actually fed them a pint of sugar water each 2 weeks ago and it was gone in about 2 hours.

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    Mark, why the two different colors?
    I got a very dark late season honey this year, what types of plants the bees get their sugars from, is what gives the variety of color. The lighter color was mid summer honey that I pulled from the hives and stored in refrigerator until I was ready to spin it with the fall honey.

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    I'm in the same situation, I'll probably order one just because. The local guy wants $98.00 a package this year!
    As of last week, both of mine were alive and flying around on one of the warm days.
    we haven't had a warm enuf day for bees to fly since November

    my bee supplier is getting $94 for package with Italian queen and $99 for package with Russian queen, Carniolans were also $99 but sold out already

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Just sent the check out for 1 package of bees, mid April is when they should be here.
    2 weeks ago we had a warm day and both my hives were active, but today was warm and one hive was active, and I saw nothing from the other. Knocked on the side of it and it sounded hollow inside, so i pulled the top off. No bees, no cluster and very few dead bees. Odd thing, there's still 20-30lbs of honey left in middle of the hive? My guess is a mouse, as I had trouble most of the winter with them. I made a tin mouse guard for the support pole which worked, then we got all this snow the past 2 weeks and the mouse simply walked on top of the snow, and squeeze through the mouse guard at the entrance.
    The other hive seems very active with a good volume of bees. The snow about 50' out all around the hive was covered in thousands of yellow spots, and littered with dead bees.

    Saturday is supposed to be 50, so I'm sure they will be out. How bad an idea is it to pull the 20-30lbs of honey from the dead hive, and add it to the live one if their supply is low?

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    I don't expect to see 50° for another month or more, now I'm hoping snow will be gone before my bee package arrives, I have a fair amount of yard work left over from my "tractor day" before I can put the new hive where I want it, I want to avoid moving an active hive if I can

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/20...s-and-hexagons

    Why is every cell in this honeycomb a hexagon?

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    The bees were out in force Yesterday, looks like someone spray painted the snow yellow 20-30' around the hive. So close, I'm really hoping they make it

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    http://io9.com/stunning-photos-show-...hun-1538049319

    Wow, I hope you guys don't mean this when you are talking about bee keeping?

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    my bee supplier had pushed the pickup date out another couple of weeks to May 7th & 8th, I was beginning to worry about the April date, I don't think the snow will be gone, 2 weeks certainly helps me get ready, I'm setting up the hive in new location

    I opened the hive I have yesterday, no surviving bees

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    That sucks Randy, was there still honey left?

    My one hive is still alive and well. They have been out the past 2 days and I started feeding today. Even saw a few pulling wax off the pine needles, so I know they are processing it.
    My new bees are still coming in on April 18th last time I checked

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    you must be getting close to red maple buds if you don't already have em, I still got 3 feet of snow cover

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Good for you guys, I don't 'keep' bees but have been fascinated with them ever since childhood.
    Here is quick article talking about an experiment proving the scaffold learning process employed by bees to learn via social interaction.

    http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...for-treats.htm

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    you must be getting close to red maple buds if you don't already have em, I still got 3 feet of snow cover
    Probably still a couple weeks away from that, but I know the sap is flowing now. There's still spotty snow, I have some areas in my yard that are grass, and some areas where there's 6" of snow. It's similar in the woods, though I'm guessing/hoping it'll be gone by the end of this weekend.
    I was splitting wood today and the honey bees were also going after the fresh split wood

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Opened up the hive that didn't make it today and found the evidence of the mouse...chewed it's way up into the honey stores.
    Not sure if I should keep the honey in there for the new hive, or start with all fresh frames...thinking I want to start with everything new on this one.

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    drones got kicked out of the hive

    did not harvest any honey this year, but the hive is healthy

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    drones got kicked out of the hive

    did not harvest any honey this year, but the hive is healthy
    Seems a bit early for them to kick out the drones, but the nights have been cooler than normal?

    I pulled 8 frames of honey about a month ago, and should go in this week to pull a lot more. My neighbor open his hives last week and they were full of honey, he pulled a full super from each one. Seeing his hives and mine seem to be pretty close in years past, I'm expecting the same with mine. If that is the case, I'm guessing a 6 gallon+ season, which is awesome

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    For what its worth

    In my little garden I have what I believe is flowering thyme plant/bush

    It has had small flowers for a couple of month (still does) and COVERED with bees all the time

    I think you all would have an abundance if the seeds were just thrown around the borders of plots

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    I have a honey bee nest in the back of my house. I would like for these bees to be safely moved into a safer area, the mosquito control is here a lot and I wouldn't want the bees to get wiped out by them.
    Any one know of bee keepers in the Westborough,MA area that might be willing to take these busy bees.

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by Karate.Snoopy View Post
    I have a honey bee nest in the back of my house. I would like for these bees to be safely moved into a safer area, the mosquito control is here a lot and I wouldn't want the bees to get wiped out by them.
    Any one know of bee keepers in the Westborough,MA area that might be willing to take these busy bees.
    if I was closer, I would give it a try

    "in the back of your house"

    does that mean actually in part of your house, siding and or sheathing may have to come off?

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

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    Re: Convince me not to give up bee keeping

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    if I was closer, I would give it a try

    "in the back of your house"

    does that mean actually in part of your house, siding and or sheathing may have to come off?
    They have managed to create a small nest inside the wall, I will call the local bee keepers and see if they might be interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karate.Snoopy View Post
    They have managed to create a small nest inside the wall, I will call the local bee keepers and see if they might be interested

    that "nest" is a hive, there are probably a lot more bees in there than you think (50,000+ maybe 100,000)

    only way to get them out is to retrieve the queen, then the rest of the bees will follow

    I spoke with a contractor once that found a hive in an attic, from the outside, you couldn't even tell, just one tiny entrance crack, inside, there was over 150 gallons of honey stored in the rafters

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