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    Re: Cordless Power Tools

    Quote Originally Posted by MattR302 View Post
    Ryobi has this, Iíve been waiting for Makita to make one, but they only do a 12v version now
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    In case you haven't seen this:
    thanks for the heads up on these, i hadn't seen the handheld models yet.

    i already own a cheapo HF Bauer 1/4" impact that i use for small jobs that uses the same 20V battery + charger as this one below. can't beat $25. perfect for the bikes.

    BAUER 20V Hypermax Lithium-Ion Cordless 0-160 PSI Power Inflator

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    Re: Cordless Power Tools

    My frustration with DeWalt is that they discontinued the 18V line for the “20V” line. But the battery internals are the same: it’s just a different form factor. The good news is that NIB 18V stuff is on eBay at a discount.

    Isn’t in front of me but the particular model of impact gun isn’t very powerful. Circ saw, recip saw and drills work well.

    Harbor Freight has upgraded their products but don’t know anyone using them.

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    Re: Cordless Power Tools

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    But the battery internals are the same: it’s just a different form factor...
    Are you sure about that? The 18V line used NiCad batteries where the 20V line is lithium.

    I have a set of 18V XRP tools from the early 2000's that won't quit. I bought the adapter so I can use the 20V batteries with them but they do require a different charger.

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    Craftsman managed to make lithium batteries that fit the tools that were designed around the nicad packs. They are all branded "19.2V". There is an extra little tab on the male part of the battery that prevents it from being inserted into the older chargers that only handled nicad batteries. Newer/more expensive chargers that handle both chemistry accept the tabbed battery. Most of the tools seem to accept either.

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    Milwaukee seems to be the tool of choice for local 103 and most of the other trades I see on jobs.

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    Re: Cordless Power Tools

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    My frustration with DeWalt is that they discontinued the 18V line for the “20V” line. But the battery internals are the same: it’s just a different form factor..
    the business model has become forced replacement by obsolescence

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Craftsman managed to make lithium batteries that fit the tools that were designed around the nicad packs.
    DeWalt had a compatible lithium pack for the 18V form factor but it was expensive and not readily available anywhere. I'm not sure if they are still making it. They went all-in with the more compact 20V form factor and the 20V chargers also support their 12V line.

    My adapter works fine but it looks like an afterthought when used on my large drill.

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    My Dewalt stuff is all 20v, not 18v. The smaller AH packs don't have the charge meter on them, but the larger ones do.

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    Weird. My little 2.0Ah packs have the meter on it.
    There must be 104593 different skus for these things.

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    Tools were delivered today and I'm home with the kids due to school being canceled (seriously?). That being said, I've been able to tinker with them.

    This hydraulic impact gun is the shit. It's SILENT and has no vibration. Quiet enough to have a low level conversation while running it. The smoothness and lack of noise make it feel very weak so I put it head to head with my old impact gun. It drives 3" self tapping framing screws into 2 2x4s a hair faster than the 20V Porter Cable. I actually clamped down two 2x4s, one on top of the other, and ran both guns at the same time (one in each hand). I did this a few times over, swapping the guns between hands and the hydraulic won every time regardless whether it was in my left or right hand.

    This was just a simple test and I'll know more when I use it for bigger projects (building a deck this spring) but based on the framing screw test I'm loving it. To me, 3 inch framing screws are the hardest application I use an impact driver for so it's a pretty good indication and it passed with flying colors.

    I highly recommend going hydraulic to anyone in the market for a new, higher end impact driver.

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    I've had my Porter Cable brushless drill and impact driver set for about a year and I love it. I've used the crap out of it over this time and so far so good. If I had to guess; between the two, I've drilled for and driven anywhere from 500-750 1 5/8" #8 screws (plus who knows what else) into mostly pine, MDF, oak plywood and sheeting plywood. I almost never use my corded drill anymore.

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    Picked up a Milwaukee Surge last week and I like it so far. And by picked up I mean it, it was in an intersection I was stopped in on the road. Has some serious road rash but still works like a champ.

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    Picked up a Milwaukee Surge last week and I like it so far. And by picked up I mean it, it was in an intersection I was stopped in on the road. Has some serious road rash but still works like a champ.
    You found my tool! Thanks!

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    i'm running an old dewalt nicad impact driver...has held up well but i don't do a ton of work with it...sold an even older milwaukee nicad impact not too long ago...had to revive the battery but when i did it ran pretty well

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    Re: Cordless Power Tools

    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
    I think Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita are very similar in quality and performance. Pretty sure once one gets a cool feature, the other copies it soon after, ie the battery gauge. So maybe just pick the one you want to build off, so you have all the same batteries.

    I don't regret going the Makita direction and have seen a litt of other contractors with them, as well. The Milwaukee fuel line seems to be really popular with plumbers for some reason. Maybe they offer more plumbing specific tools? I know they like the small sawzall.
    Plumbers use Milwaukee
    Electricians run makita
    Carpenters run Dewalt

    If you buy the top of the line of any of these with at least a 3.0 ah 20v brushless you're good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G21forme View Post
    Plumbers use Milwaukee
    Electricians run makita
    Carpenters run Dewalt

    If you buy the top of the line of any of these with at least a 3.0 ah 20v brushless you're good to go.
    Umm, no. Makita and DeWalt - carpenters.
    Plumbers, Electricians, Pipe fitters, Sprinkler fitters and anyone else besides a carpenter - Milwaukee

    Milwaukee also doesnt have a 20v setup, 12 and 18v.

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    Fuck I guess now I'll have to be a plumber

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    Fuck I guess now I'll have to be a plumber
    Let's see that crack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Let's see that crack!
    Crack is whack, man

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    So I completed a few projects last weekend that gave me a chance to do a decent amount of work with both tools (Drill and Impact Driver). The key takeaways I got are that there is a HUGE difference in using pro grade tools over homeowner grade, and the hydraulic impact driver is the shit. I can confidently say there seems to be no compromise between the hydraulic and traditional impacts. It's super quiet and super smooth.

    What I like most about these tools is the trigger control. On the homeowner grade stuff I've had, the triggers were like on/off switches. The triggers on these Milwaukee tools are very smooth and give you a lot of control.

    One gripe is that the forward/reverse switch sticks occasionally on the drill. It's not a huge deal, you just apply a little pressure and it unsticks, but it's annoying. It only seems to stick if I put it in the middle position to lock the trigger so I just try not to do that. I'm just a little irritated considering these are supposed to be top of the line tools.

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    Just spit on it a bit, it'll loosen right up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSR6 View Post
    So I completed a few projects last weekend that gave me a chance to do a decent amount of work with both tools (Drill and Impact Driver). The key takeaways I got are that there is a HUGE difference in using pro grade tools over homeowner grade, and the hydraulic impact driver is the shit. I can confidently say there seems to be no compromise between the hydraulic and traditional impacts. It's super quiet and super smooth.

    What I like most about these tools is the trigger control. On the homeowner grade stuff I've had, the triggers were like on/off switches. The triggers on these Milwaukee tools are very smooth and give you a lot of control.

    One gripe is that the forward/reverse switch sticks occasionally on the drill. It's not a huge deal, you just apply a little pressure and it unsticks, but it's annoying. It only seems to stick if I put it in the middle position to lock the trigger so I just try not to do that. I'm just a little irritated considering these are supposed to be rop of the line tools.
    If it's a Milwaukee, send it to them for repair or replace once you're in between projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    I liken this discussion to one that comes up frequently about cars and their manufacturers.//!
    There’s giant difference!

    AvE doesn’t review cars! This is on wild Canadian.

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