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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build


    my GF is in the market for an old yeller school bus, not a big bus, they are a dime a dozen, in decent shape too, she want's a short bus 28-36 passenger with a wheel chair lift

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    I know I’m partasion but I think my route is hands down the best option... if you haven’t seen my setup

    It’s a 16’x7’ enclosed with 6’6” height, all aluminum with insulated and finished walls, LEDs, dual axel, a fold down full size bed, cabinets in the V nose, and weights 1900 pounds empty. I added a 120, a fridge, microwave, and a tv mount to put my small tv on. If I sold it today after four years of use I could sell it for 1000-2000 less than I paid easily and still be good


    All my setup is missing is a bathroom and let’s be honest maybe 10% of the people I know with bathrooms on their toyhauler / rvs even uses them.


    IF and that’s a big if. If I ever sell it / upgrade it will be to an Airstream Pam America (google it). I’m obsessed with them but very rare and of course airstream price tag but I’ll live out of it half the year

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    If you want a toy hauler that's built to last and not made out of cheap materials, look at the ATC Toy Haulers. They're not cheap though. Our travel trailer will be getting swapped for one of them in a couple years.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Now that I have one, I'll never understand the "I don't use the bathroom" thing with RV owners. It is by far the biggest convenience of my new rig. It's easy to clean and makes life on the road soooo much easier.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    I agree, I think he's got his percentage backwards. More like 10% don't use their RV bathroom.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Maybe only 10% of people with RVs camping @ NHMS use them. But few facilities are as accommodating as NHMS.
    My own private place to take a deuce would have been very welcomed when racing Boxhop!
    The older I get, the more I value my own space to do the doo-doo.

    I'll say it again, I think team Paul n' Kerry are on the mark for the right setup; quality motorhome towing an enclosed trailer with bikes and tools.
    Way more flexible if you've got the family too. Just drop the enclosed trailer and go do the family thing.

    Runner up would be a half-ton pulling a nice bumper-tow camper. Bikes in the bed for track events. Loose the bikes for family adventures. Upside here is a modern half-ton is way safer than most motorhomes for toting younin's. My wife has decreed she is not down with her offspring riding in a motorhome.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    $20 to dump at NHMS, you're damn right I'm using my own bathroom! What a freaking luxury.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    DIY toy hauler camper build-trailer-jpg

    It followed me home.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
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    It followed me home.
    So that's who bought Mike/Tony's trailer...

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Plans?

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Fix the little issues that need attention. Probably replace the floor wood that has a bunch of oil stains.

    One piece of exterior skin needs to be riveted in place, the seam opened up.

    Right now plan is to make it into a sleepable trailer with space for 1-2 bikes. Add some storage for gear, possibly a workbench in the v-nose.

    Considering insulating, but not sure if I really need to. Replace one of the roof vents with a electric unit. Wire in some more functionality for electricity.

    Come up with a foldable bunk, or just roll with a cot for now.

    I do want to eventually put white paneling on the walls and a covering on the floor. It'll brighten it up quite a bit.

    My dad's '09 Tacoma pulled it easily. Forgot it was there on the highway. Sure it was empty, but for a 14' long extra height (7 feet interior!!!!) trailer, it didn't seem like a lot was back there. Used his truck because my truck doesn't have the 7 pin connector yet. Brake controller install kit is on the way. The little Tacoma that could should be able to yank it without much fuss.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    I think the gains of an aluminum trailer only compound with size.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    WTF torx head are these wall screws? Not a T15, T20 or T10. I'm at a loss. Tried all my bits. Can't nail it down.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    WTF torx head are these wall screws? Not a T15, T20 or T10. I'm at a loss. Tried all my bits. Can't nail it down.
    Maybe because it's a screw...

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    I remember having that problem. Found something that fit at my local hardware store. It's something..

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    WTF torx head are these wall screws? Not a T15, T20 or T10. I'm at a loss. Tried all my bits. Can't nail it down.
    If memory serves, the proper bit for the 8 point trailer screws is a #2 square drive bit.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Thanks! I have those.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post

    Come up with a foldable bunk, or just roll with a cot for now.
    hammock ?

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Fix the little issues that need attention. Probably replace the floor wood that has a bunch of oil stains.

    One piece of exterior skin needs to be riveted in place, the seam opened up.

    Right now plan is to make it into a sleepable trailer with space for 1-2 bikes. Add some storage for gear, possibly a workbench in the v-nose.

    Considering insulating, but not sure if I really need to. Replace one of the roof vents with a electric unit. Wire in some more functionality for electricity.

    Come up with a foldable bunk, or just roll with a cot for now.

    I do want to eventually put white paneling on the walls and a covering on the floor. It'll brighten it up quite a bit.

    My dad's '09 Tacoma pulled it easily. Forgot it was there on the highway. Sure it was empty, but for a 14' long extra height (7 feet interior!!!!) trailer, it didn't seem like a lot was back there. Used his truck because my truck doesn't have the 7 pin connector yet. Brake controller install kit is on the way. The little Tacoma that could should be able to yank it without much fuss.
    Ah crap, wish I knew that was you I saw rolling by - would've been nice to tie another NESR face to a name

    Paint the walls - way easier than covering, and just as bright. If the floor doesn't smell, indoor/outdoor carpet. If it does smell of oil, you might be able to just paint it with the same primer/paint for the walls, then indoor/outdoor carpet.

    Your Taco will have no problem pulling that alum box!

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    If it does smell of oil, buy a back of diatomaceous earth and a gallon of mineral spirts. Make a paste out of the two, press it into the oil stains and let it dry. It'll suck a lot of the oil out of the wood as the mineral spirts evaporate out.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Ah crap, wish I knew that was you I saw rolling by - would've been nice to tie another NESR face to a name
    I was with my old man, so I didn't want to linger too long. Plus I was bothering the staff enough just catching up.

    I'll be at a ton of TTD events next year though, snagged a membership for next year. Going to be so much nicer with a big spacious trailer. You'll find me eventually.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    If it does smell of oil, buy a back of diatomaceous earth and a gallon of mineral spirts. Make a paste out of the two, press it into the oil stains and let it dry. It'll suck a lot of the oil out of the wood as the mineral spirts evaporate out.
    As well as this may work, it's probably just as easy to replace the wood. The three rails of e-Trax inside is sunken into the floor, meaning the floor is a bunch of 2.5'x4' chunks bolted down. Super easy to replace!

    DIY toy hauler camper build-trailerfloor-jpg

    You can't see the seams there, but trust me, they are there.

    Indoor/outdoor carpet may be nice, along with some thin strips to cover up the e-trax. Really make social gatherings classy. Just need a blender, some Hawaiian music and some pink flamingo's for outside.

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    Re: DIY toy hauler camper build

    Ok Bubs, I'm lookin for some insight on pushing and pulling electrons throughout this thing. Some info:

    1. 2kw inverter generator on the way. Low oil shutoff, eco mode, etc. Snagged one cheap. Market seems to be in a downward trend price wise for these little 1800w-2200w inverter generators. $232 shipped, 54db at 50% load, 6.5 hours runtime on a gallon of fuel at this load. Includes the parallel cables to tie it to another to double the output. Already have decent heavy gauge 50' extension cables with fresh connectors, and a shore power port in the V to get the zap indoors so I can keep that little quiet box humming away far away from the trailer for social stuff post open-track times.

    2. Looking to be able to run warmers (need outlet near the back door or even an exterior outlet), a fan for the helmet, and possibly a mini-fridge or electric cooler. Also interior lights (thinkin LED string lights and a couple ceiling LED lights to replace the traditional lights in there now), plus a few exterior LED lights to light up the ramp area/door/etc for unloading duty at night.

    3. Place to plug in the cellular telephone computer touchscreen tablet thing near the bed, and also be able to run a heated mattress pad for the chilly evenings.

    4. One of those fancy powered roof vents. Guess these guys run off 12v?

    5. Be nice to be able to run a blender/coffee maker/charge the impact gun/etc on a countertop built into the V-Nose.


    With that being said, I was thinking a combination of 120v stuff (outlets, half the interior lighting) and 12v stuff (other half of interior lighting, exterior lighting, ceiling vent) would be the best method to give the most flexibility on power sources. Considering a single 100w PV panel on the roof, and a single 12v battery inside on a smart charger/controller/converter/inverter.

    Goals would be to roll in, run on 12v for a while to get setup, get the generator going during heavy draw (tire warmers which draw approx 900w combined), but still have power for things like the vent fan or mattress pad, cell phone charging, and lighting at night without running the generator. Be great if I could boost the charging rate of the internal battery with the generator instead of relying solely on the PV panel to fill it up in case of cloudy days.

    Basically, I don't mind running the generator for loud hours at the track, but I'd like to roll silent at night.

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    Your needs are more significant than mine. I never ran warmers or anything heated off my setup except when docked with shore power. (Racing, NHMS, garage run.)

    Kurlon picked up one of those Westinghouse 2200W gennys. I shared some power off him one weekend. As I remember it ran both sets of warmers for us nicely, plus a fan for him. Maybe we ran two helmet fans? I can't remember. It also cold started his roof mount AC. I think you're good to go with that. Those units seem pretty nice. I was ready to buy one before I .. retired.

    Sounds like you just need a traditional 1-2 circuit sub panel, a weather-ish tight exterior shore power lug, some outlets and boxes. All regular 110VAC stuff. They make outlets with USB lugs now. I'd install those I think. Clean, safe, simple.

    They make roof vent fans that run 110VAC as well. I'm sure there's a gazillion LED options there too. I went 12VDC for everything for mine as I'd planned go to solar and didn't want an inverter. I'd warn not to cheap out here; go for the brand name unit. I went for an e-trailer cheapie and regret it. Get the lame looking rain hood too. Ask me how getting pelted in the face with rain at 2AM feels.

    I would recommend one of these low-power fridges. I think they are worth the $. I've found a gazillion uses for mine.

    I'm honestly not sure how you are going to run that comfortably without the genny running. Not without a decent bank for batteries and a decent sized inverter. I suspect the heating pad alone is not going to jive well with "rolling silent". Never mind that coffee maker. I use a camp stove for my press.

    I have a single ~100Ah deep cycle wet cell (cheapest solution). It pushes my low-power truck fridge, 12VDC LED lighting, and roof fan plus occasional cell charging for a weekend. I have a single roof mounted solar cell and it seems to keep the cell topped off well enough. I don't have any kind of battery monitor. But I do not believe I cycle it below the magic 50%. But I don't have an inverter and my 110VAC circuits are dead unless I plug in. Although if I do plug in I can charge the battery too.

    I just started researching solar for the house. The inverter part of the game is new to me. I don't know the deets about finding one smart enough and sized correctly for what you're after.

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