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Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread


    Thanks for this thread. Checked my tires this morning, sure enough, new ones coming my way. Started cracking between the treads even though there was plenty of life left.

    Be a lot nice to know it's got solid tires for the 4 hour ride to NYST this weekend!

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Also due to the NYST trip decided to replace the bearings, races and seals. We’d inspected the existing bearings and seal and they looked fine, this was purely preventative. The HF hubs are 25mm while most hubs sold are one inch. So the bearings and seals can be a challenge to find.

    We bought: Amazon.com: XiKe 25mm Axle Wheel Bearings Kit, 30205 25x52x16.25mm with races and Seal TC 30x52x10mm

    US made bearings, $17 per wheel.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    FYI, torque spec for lug nuts is 85-90 ft lb for 4 bolt and 90 ft lb for 5 bolt.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    New Carlisle Tires seem a bit out of round when spinning and eyeing them. We'll see how they ride.

    Went through and had to tighten most every nut/bolt on my whole trailer that hadn't already fallen out. Apparently whoever I bought it from doesn't believe in Loctite. Even the u-bolts holding the axle nearish to the leaf springs were just all kinds of loose.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    New Carlisle Tires seem a bit out of round when spinning and eyeing them. We'll see how they ride.
    I have Carlisles on my Kendon and they've been great. Let me know what you find out...

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    I have Carlisles on my Kendon and they've been great. Let me know what you find out...
    What size? Made in USA?

    The ones we have are 5.30 x 12. Carlisle makes the same tire in China (roughly $30) and the US ($60). Looked on Amazon and 80% of the reviews for the Chinese version are 4 or 5 Stars. Ours have roughly 400 miles and seem fine.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    What size? Made in USA?

    The ones we have are 5.30 x 12. Carlisle makes the same tire in China (roughly $30) and the US ($60). Looked on Amazon and 80% of the reviews for the Chinese version are 4 or 5 Stars. Ours have roughly 400 miles and seem fine.
    I'll take a look tomorrow when I get home. They're full-size, so either 14" or 15". Which sucks, because it means the spare doesn't fit under the trailer...

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Mine are the 4.8x12's.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    I had new Carlisle tires(Chinese, as the place I went did not have USA) put on my HF trailer in May 2017. Approx. 3,000 miles since then(2 trips to Georgia and random deliveries, mostly with my 465lb ZRX on it. No tire or bearing issues but I've got the bearings posted above in my Amazon basket as the bearings on the trailer are original. Thanks Garandman!

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    The whole hub assembly is cheap.. u shud by one.. it can be changed on the road

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    New tires/wheels vibrate my whole truck like a coin driven motel bed between 50 and 60. Garbage.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    New tires/wheels vibrate my whole truck like a coin driven motel bed between 50 and 60. Garbage.
    I'll be over in an hour with a sock full of quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    I'll be over in an hour with a sock full of quarters.
    Don't threaten me with a good time!

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Anyone carry two bikes at once? If so, how?

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Anyone carry two bikes at once? If so, how?
    All the time, do Deal's Gap and back.

    Take two bikes.

    Place them on the trailer.

    Done!


    Really though, I run 3 HF chocks on the trailer. Middle one is for solo bike hauling. I also bolted some angle iron out 1.5' past each corner of the trailer to widen the tie-down angle with heavy duty D-Rings. I can snap a pic eventually if you'd like.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Start working out?!

    I have a 4x8 open trailer. It's not HF, but I'm not sure how that would change things. I put 2 of those HF captive wheel chocks. Ironically I remember I bought one of them used from you eons ago. They work slick. Although I've since added a tongue box to the trailer for extra wheels and such. Were I doing it over again I'd build a more robust box and attach or fabricate a bar with notches for the tires and integrated tie-downs. (Google motorcycle bed buddy bar). Oxx had a setup like this in his 4x10 trailer and it was pretty slick.

    For bonus points I'd try to make the box removable so the trailer could still be used as a straight utility trailer. I permanently bolted my wheel chocks into my trailer and regret it. Should have bolted them to scraps of ply and made them detachable, kept them indoors out of the weather when not in use. Mine are all rusty now. One of my todo items is to crawl under there with an impact and try to undo the rusty hardware holding those in.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Mine are rusty too. Got some extra POR15. Going to wire wheel them, POR15 them, then hit them with the rustolium.

    *edit

    My entire trailer is rusty. Paint is coming off in foot long flakes. Shitty HF paint. Wood floor is getting near the ends of it's life anyways, so when I replace it, I'll wire wheel everything down and POR15 it.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Looks like they are back for sale. Salem NH.



    1720 lbs. Capacity 48 in. x 96 in. Super Duty Folding Trailer

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    New HF trailer hack FWIW:

    Previous owner of my trailer had replaced the small casters that the trailer rests on when folded with 3" locking ones (standard Home Depot stuff). While this might have seemed like a good idea to deal with rougher surfaces, they interfered with folding the tail. This caused some usability problems that aren't worth going into. Suffice it to say that 2" casters are the way to go.

    I finally got around to replacing the 3" wheels with 2" wheels last weekend. With four 3" casters now looking for a purpose in life, I decided to mount two of 'em under the rear of the trailer using existing holes in the frame.

    This makes unfolding/folding the trailer MUCH easier... before, I couldn't drop the tail down to the ground, which I need to do because the whole trailer is too heavy for me to safely support if I leave it folded while lowering it onto its wheels. The license plate bracket would hit, and the frame would scrape along the pavement. So I had to rig straps to support the tail off the ground while tipping the front of the trailer down to horizontal. A time-consuming PITA.

    Now it's a snap. Just drop the tail down and it rolls on the casters while the front gets lowered. No muss, no fuss. Similar benefits going the other way.

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    Heres the contraption we added for two bikes. Set up the chocks in the driveway first to make sure the two bikes fit together. The bar is 6 x 1-1/2 rectangular 1/8th Wall aluminum tube. The chocks are 4 from the edge and 9 from the front.



    Dont like this: it seems much too top heavy. Just ordered the aluminum 5x8 kit from Northern Tool and Im going to look at flipping the axle brackets for lowering. Would love to get a motorcycle-specific trailer but we also have to transport power equipment, snow machines etc. Have to decide about Plywood versus diamond plate for decking. May raise the tail lights also: an Uber driver in a Suburban hit (just a tap) me from behind because he didnt see it.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    I did very similar with simple angle iron and heavy duty D-Rings.


    I exchanged my two replacement tires/wheels at HF yesterday. One of the new ones is fairly "in round". Other one is pretty bad just visually spinning it. Not sure if it's a bad batch of wheels/tires, but kid at the counter said nobody else has exchanged any of the new replacement wheels/tires yet.

    I'll return the tire/wheel next week so I can hopefully get two good ones.

    Why does a company seem to think that out of round trailer wheels/tires are ok? This isn't my first time dealing with this shit.

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    Anyplace Boston area to buy aluminum diamond plate?

    Lost one of the dust caps on the way out to Palmer. Apparently they are 52mm.. Haven’t found replacements yet.

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    Anyone have experience ordering replacement parts?

    This past weekend one of the fender brackets failed due to metal fatigue. Allowed the fender to rotate forward, and the edge promptly began digging into the tire, machining the rubber away at the shoulder. Much blue smoke ensued. I pulled over in time to avoid tire failure, yanked the fender off and chucked it in a ditch.

    On the premise that the other fender is subject to the same stresses and is the same age, I took a look... and sure enough, there was a big crack. 80% of the way to total failure. So I ripped that one off too.

    Drove home through some light showers with no ill effects ... so the fenders don't really seem to be necessary, but I'd rather make it right.

    I assume I can download the trailer manual PDF, get the part number and call, but you know how these things tend to go. Just wondering if anyone has actually tried to buy pieces.

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    Re: Harbor Freight Trailer Containment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by adouglas View Post
    Anyone have experience ordering replacement parts?

    This past weekend one of the fender brackets failed due to metal fatigue. Allowed the fender to rotate forward, and the edge promptly began digging into the tire, machining the rubber away at the shoulder. Much blue smoke ensued. I pulled over in time to avoid tire failure, yanked the fender off and chucked it in a ditch.

    On the premise that the other fender is subject to the same stresses and is the same age, I took a look... and sure enough, there was a big crack. 80% of the way to total failure. So I ripped that one off too.

    Drove home through some light showers with no ill effects ... so the fenders don't really seem to be necessary, but I'd rather make it right.

    I assume I can download the trailer manual PDF, get the part number and call, but you know how these things tend to go. Just wondering if anyone has actually tried to buy pieces.
    I loaned my trailer to another local on here a few months back, when he returned it, it was missing one of the fenders. I ripped the other one off as a preventative measure as well.
    I read someplace that somebody used a big rubbermaid container, cut it lengthwise in half down the middle, then bolted those to the trailer as fenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adouglas View Post
    //I assume I can download the trailer manual PDF, get the part number and call, but you know how these things tend to go. Just wondering if anyone has actually tried to buy pieces.
    First of all, thanks for all your help at the track day, I really appreciate it, as did others. First time with GSX-R so lots of questions.

    eTrailer has some brackets made for other fenders that might work, probably cheaper than you can make them. I may try them.
    Mounting Bracket for Trailer Fender - Qty 1 CE Smith CE26061G
    Mounting Brackets for Trailer Fender - Qty 2 - CE Smith CE26061G-2

    Redline makes something similar. Galvanized Steel, L-Shaped, Bolt-On Brackets for Plastic, Single-Axle Fender PF775X21W - Qty. 2 Redline Accessories and Parts PF775-BKT-2

    Every state I’ve checked requires trailer fenders due to rain spray and the prospect of propelling debris. Here’s CT.
    DMV: Inspection of Trailers
    Fenders - Fenders are required on all trailers where the rear body portion does not afford adequate protection to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or dirt. All fenders must cover entire tread width of each tire. The determinant of the effectiveness of the body to act as a fender and/or mud flap is whether the height of the rearmost portion is one-third of or less than the distance from the center of the rearmost axle. This section shall not apply to vehicles registered as farm vehicles.
    MA states “trailers must have fenders, two tail lights, stop lights, directional signals and safety chains.”

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