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    Can I choose on my regular home internet devices that can use less speed?

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Unfortunately you cannot. Fuck you Ajit Pai.

    It isn't up to you to decide the priority of internet traffic.

    The internet has been awful for just over a year since net neutrality was killed.

    From a technical standpoint it only matters what hardware people are using, and the technical answer is yes. It just depends on your gear.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    Unfortunately you cannot. Fuck you Ajit Pai.

    It isn't up to you to decide the priority of internet traffic.

    The internet has been awful for just over a year since net neutrality was killed.
    Um... WAT?!

    Ok, just going to ignore that... Sav, what are you looking to do? Are you having problems with a particular device (tablet?) doing some heavy streaming and screwing up net access for the rest of the stuff in your house, or something different?

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Kind of. There are devices in the house (a tablet and 2 phones) that just don’t need the highest available speed. I want them to be on a slower “lane” if such thing even exists.
    My WiFi Route is the Apple AirPort Extreme, has been working great for a few years now but I am noticing some decrease in performance lately (seems like the range has gotten smaller and speed tests are very inconsistent). Quick google search showed Apple discontinued it so I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Kind of. There are devices in the house (a tablet and 2 phones) that just don’t need the highest available speed. I want them to be on a slower “lane” if such thing even exists.
    My WiFi Route is the Apple AirPort Extreme, has been working great for a few years now but I am noticing some decrease in performance lately (seems like the range has gotten smaller and speed tests are very inconsistent). Quick google search showed Apple discontinued it so I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it.
    I get why you're thinking you need to prioritize your devices, but I suspect that isn't really addressing the issue.

    How many devices do you have consuming meaningful bandwidth at any given time? Probably not enough to stress your wifi coverage. But your wifi signal might have become worse for various reasons, which will reduce bandwidth for those weaker consumers. Or if the poor performance is only with one specific device, the problem might not even be wifi or bandwidth related at all.

    For example, your Airport's signal might be reduced because of some new metal object in the way, or someone close by now has wifi on exactly the same frequency channel.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Can I choose on my regular home internet devices that can use less speed?
    Yes, it's known as QoS (quality of service), and no, you really shouldn't need to use it.

    Plug a computer directly into your cable modem or whatever ISP you use and see if the speed issue starts there.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Agree that you will want to tap into the router for reasons stated above but also because maybe there are more devices connected than you think.


    I'll save on the backstory.........after fighting some random and otherwise unexplained internet speed issues, I logged into my router and saw somewhere around 20 devices connected. (There should be around 6, tops, for my household). Turns out my wireless password was leaked by a neighbor and my house ended up being the center for free neighborhood internet for a short while.

    I kicked everyone off by changing the network name, shutting off the router's broadcasting and changing the wireless password.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Agree that you will want to tap into the router for reasons stated above but also because maybe there are more devices connected than you think.


    I'll save on the backstory.........after fighting some random and otherwise unexplained internet speed issues, I logged into my router and saw somewhere around 20 devices connected. (There should be around 6, tops, for my household). Turns out my wireless password was leaked by a neighbor and my house ended up being the center for free neighborhood internet for a short while.

    I kicked everyone off by changing the network name, shutting off the router's broadcasting and changing the wireless password.
    Please tell me you changed the network name to "you guys are a buncha cock gobblers" or something!

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    I would of just sniffed their packets and then extorted those mother fuckers. I MEAN, accepted donations in exchange for educating them about going to illegal/porn/etc websites.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    I kicked everyone off by changing the network name, shutting off the router's broadcasting and changing the wireless password.
    Agreed. It's usually pretty simple to check the log, check active devices, and probably just change the password if it's been unchanged for a while. There are some really frugal technical people who will 'obtain' neighbor's wifi pw just to save money on the monthly bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrocket21 View Post
    Please tell me you changed the network name to "you guys are a buncha cock gobblers" or something!
    I thought about a lot of things however I ultimately went with disabling router broadcasting. I know....not as much fun on the surface however there has been a longer term entertainment in the form of watching the two households react (during that timeframe) as well as my "computer savvy" friends and family struggle to "hack" into my wireless.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    All this talk of packet sniffing has my Wranglers fitting a smidge tighter in the front.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    There are a number (growing all the time) of open source solutions that can help with QoS on a home network. Typically, unless you have pretty strong router hardware, you will require an additional networked device (hardware; cost) to host. Some, newer routers, have QoS/Prioritization/Control built in.

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    Re: Home internet - device throttling

    Quote Originally Posted by yucatan View Post
    There are a number (growing all the time) of open source solutions that can help with QoS on a home network. Typically, unless you have pretty strong router hardware, you will require an additional networked device (hardware; cost) to host. Some, newer routers, have QoS/Prioritization/Control built in.
    Sure, but this is like needing new spark plugs for your motorcycle, so you buy a new motorcycle.

    Maybe not a perfect analogy, but the point is it's looking the wrong direction when odds are there's a simpler issue that needs addressing. Typical home users shouldn't need QoS or pro-sumer level equipment to get acceptable wifi performance.

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