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    jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one


    TL : DR - options for lifting a car? small garage width and height wise. Where to jack up an audi besides pinch welds?

    So.. with all the work on my Audi lately I've getting tired of the limited work space and or difficulty of getting it lifted

    Can find a clear source on where to jack an audi up to get the front or rear lifted at same time vs jacking each corner at a time
    is putting one up on 4 jack stands "safe" and easy to do?

    Currently use
    1- Rhino ramps, light, easy to use. Little unnerving driving up to the top, always worried I'll drive too far. That and aligning them just right for the tire to roll on them with no hanging off the sides.
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    2- Jacks stands I have to lift the car with a jack (use adapter to not crush pinch welds). The stands give me the height I want but placing them, each corner at a time takes time and jacking on pinch welds is wearing them,

    I'd like to lift the car on 4 points honestly vs just 2

    Any other options? Dont think a hydraulic lift will work due to width and height and always being there. Garage height max 8' ceiling. Its a 2 car garage, the center there is 5-6' free space (dirtbike and snowblower taking up space) Outer sides a concrete foundation wall. When you pull in, max u can get is 36"of free space that is needed for walking room after you pull in.

    myliftstands.com seems like an option but can do wheel work

    EZ CAR LIFT - FREE-STANDING USE-ANYWHERE CAR LIFT! FAST. SAFE. STRONG.EASY. hydraulics but $$$$$$, portable though, can do wheel work
    https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/po...jGbLbZT6gZ1Jo4 same as above but less $$ but no sexy hydraulics
    QuickJack - Car Lift for your Garage or Shop seems similar as above?
    4 Car Lift Alternatives for Your Home Garage | Kwik-Lift Blog $$ no wheel work, but simple to use, no failing hydraulics

    any thoughts?
    Want easy, light/ portable, and low on getting crushed factor

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    I drive up on ramps first then jack up the rear end in the center on the subframe and then rest it on the pinch welds with jack stands. If I need the front tires off, I jack in the center front subframe and then swap the ramps for jack stands.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Audi's don't have a jacking point on the side that lifts the whole side of the car ? lift one side, put jack stands under it, go to the other side, repeat..... That's how I always lifted the VWs & Bimmers I've owned

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    If he's already seeing the pinch welds take damage, I'd say it's probably not a good idea to pick up the car side to side. It puts a lot of side stress on the pinch welds.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    the problem with ramps vs jackstands, is that the wheels are still not free to do wheel work, they get you under the car with a creeper, that's it.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    the problem with ramps vs jackstands, is that the wheels are still not free to do wheel work, they get you under the car with a creeper, that's it.
    ^^^this...also you have to make sure the angle of the ramps clear your bumper

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Audi's don't have a jacking point on the side that lifts the whole side of the car ? lift one side, put jack stands under it, go to the other side, repeat..... That's how I always lifted the VWs & Bimmers I've owned
    They have jack point in the sides. The punch welds which barely have enough room for for me to place jack stand on to after I have it jacked with a jack stand. Itís a pita

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    They have jack point in the sides. The punch welds which barely have enough room for for me to place jack stand on to after I have it jacked with a jack stand. It’s a pita
    if you were to take it to a garage with the typical side post lift, where would they adjust the arms to lift your car ? these are the points you want to place your jack stands once you have the side lifted.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    I've been trying to justify a Quick Jack set up for the garage.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    that's a good point i should ask.

    I'm leaning towards the quick jack i see some on CL for decent money. it would save me a lot of cursing that's for sure. Its compact has a failsafe for safety and its just a button not more dealing with dragging a jack around

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    i would love a Quick Jack but prob never gonna happen ... until then, this is the way i do it on my MK7 GTI (DAP vid below) which i assume might be pretty similar to your Audi. i never jack from anywhere along the pinch weld except the reinforced areas F+R. i also assume you are doing the same, if not, you are def going to get damage. even with just a small piece of scrap carpet on my old jack i never get pinch damange and the car is in the air a lot. yes it's slow, but once in the air i have plenty of room and stablity to get work done.



    another option... i haven't tried a set but tempted.


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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    That Ren stand is pretty cool that might be the ticket. I just wonder if it doesnt slip once you start to to jack the other side.
    that's my concern with 2 jack stand on one side. You start to jack up the other side then the jack stands start to slip/ slide

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    context , or just showing a nice car of yours? on wood lifts?

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    My VW/Audi friend at work says the best way is to pick up the front or rear together using two jacks then place whichever end down on jack stands and repeat at the other end. Also if it's Quattro, you can lift it by the rear differential in the center.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Hey Black figured I could chime in here. We lifts most Audi's from those same spots on the pinch welds you are seeing. But for whatever reason audi actually covers all of the pinch weld with plastic except for those 2 6" sections for lift posts on each side. Unfortunately this makes placing jack stands a pain in the ass.

    What I recommend is actually jacking the car up via the pinch welds but placing the jack stands a little further under the vehicle on the subframe. Near where the rear most lower control arm connects for the front.

    On the rear we just Jack it up from a spot where the pinch weld has some plastic Covering it a little in front of the actual jack point. Usually the plastic is fine if you are gentle then you can place your jack stand on the lift point.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Quote Originally Posted by Danz19899 View Post
    Hey Black figured I could chime in here. We lifts most Audi's from those same spots on the pinch welds you are seeing. But for whatever reason audi actually covers all of the pinch weld with plastic except for those 2 6" sections for lift posts on each side. Unfortunately this makes placing jack stands a pain in the ass.

    What I recommend is actually jacking the car up via the pinch welds but placing the jack stands a little further under the vehicle on the subframe. Near where the rear most lower control arm connects for the front.

    On the rear we just Jack it up from a spot where the pinch weld has some plastic Covering it a little in front of the actual jack point. Usually the plastic is fine if you are gentle then you can place your jack stand on the lift point.
    thanks for the input..... so rear diff is a big no no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    thanks for the input..... so rear diff is a big no no?
    Yea that's not something id recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danz19899 View Post
    Yea that's not something id recommend.
    Why not? Genuine curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden chicken View Post
    Why not? Genuine curiosity.
    I've done it to my Xterra, some small google searching, Audi board folks say that you can bend the diff etc ever so slightly. I assume the Xterra is beefier in the diff meant to take rock hits , the Audi.... not so much

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Or steel vs aluminum I guess.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    If its like the one on a BMW the carrier on the subframe for the diff is just to support/locate the diff, not support the weight of the car.

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    Back in the day if you were at your permanent home (no intention of ever moving)

    You would dig a grease pit

    I have a good ancient now sears floor and cheapish jack stands convenient , no but I am cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Back in the day if you were at your permanent home (no intention of ever moving)

    You would dig a grease pit

    I have a good ancient now sears floor and cheapish jack stands convenient , no but I am cheap
    And back in the day they let you do that. I tried to add a floor pit to my garage when I built it 9 years ago. There was a little laughter followed by a stern, no.

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    too bad you missed this..

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    Re: jack stands, lifts ramps.. which one

    ^^^that is the style I would choose for my own garage. Access to wheels and suspension and also under the engine bay.

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