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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Wire is sized to conduct a given amount of ampacity, there is nothing wrong with using properly sized aluminum conductors. There is nothing wrong with copper clad aluminum. If your so damn concerned about using the most conductive metal, shut up and go buy some silver cables.


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    it's not about conductivity as much as flexibility in extreme cold

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Mt Sunapee isn’t the coldest place around (currently -16, Keene is -21 And St Johnsbury -22) but it’s cold enough that we wanted to be sure our cold-weather jump pack, a Clore JNC660 (its a 9-1/2 lb AGM battery unit) was up to the task of starting everything. We use it a lot more than jumper cables.

    There’s a guy on NES who is a tow truck driver in central NH, who is pretty matter-of-fact about what happens “out there” and how to stay out of trouble. For my own edification, posed several questions to him and others.

    1. What are the ultimate 25’ jumper cables? Everyone links to $375 cables but no one actually buys them.

    2. Do you need jumper cables if, for example, a pickup was parked at a trail head and extreme cold so that the battery “Wouldn’t accept a charge,” and thus would require a jump from a running vehicle?

    About starting a cold vehicle with a jump pack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zappa, post: 5754041, member: 10141
    Not true. A jump pack by definition is a battery, it's just portable. I've used them to start cars that had no battery at all, by connecting the clamps to the cars battery cable ends. It works fine for driving across the parking lot and into the shop, but I wouldn't advise running down the road like that.
    Clore officially says not to run the jump pack as a battery, but people do it all the time.

    Also asked, “Is the Clore JNC660 adequate for starting cars, light trucks and small diesel tractor down to -20 or -25? Clore makes some bigger models.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zappa, post: 5754041, member: 10141
    That's the same pack I carry in the tow truck, it's rated at 1700 CCA, which is nearly twice that of most standard car batteries. Yeah, they cost about $150, but I can't screw around with those cheapo Harbor Freight units, I need one that works every time.
    We didn’t find one locally so ordered it online in 2012. Can’t remember how many times we’ve used it but we’ve started three in a row. Set a reminder to charge it every month from the wall but it also comes with a cable to recharge through a 12V port.

    Clore Jump-N-Carry JNC660 1700 Peak Amp 12V Jump Starter

    Currently about $120 delivered.

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    I have OK jumpers from like 30 years wires not that big

    If you have the patience to clamp them on and run the donor car for like 5+ minutes it will start the car
    Note If beautiful woman it requires 20 minutes

    I am surmising that the charge also warms the battery internals as well as supplies the energy

    Then when you start you have the jumper AND an original battery

    Never tried to start a big diesel but otherwise this worked on everything

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    just saying i love my Powerall.

    no need to replace the battery on the sled if this little battery fires it form dead and no fuel, also the woodchipper, 4wheeler, motorcycles, v8 truck, cell phones etc...


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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I know what I want when I can touch and feel, but haven't found what I want in stock locally

    I have decent set, 0 ga fine stranded copper cable, parrot clamps, 16' stretched. One of my clamps came off so I have to resolder the terminal that bolts to the clamp. I will be repairing them but I got thinking I really want a longer set, 25' or longer, even if I have to go up to 00 cable. 16' just isn't long enuf unless you can almost part nose to nose

    I have searched online and found what claims to be what I want, but then I read reviews and don't know what to believe. I really want to hear a review from a more known entity before I spend what I believe will cost $100+

    Or should I just order a $200 set thru NAPA
    What did you get?

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    What did you get?
    can't rely on any reviews, gonna build my own with Class M welding cable and parrot clamps

    after more research, I have discovered what I am looking for because of the price of copper, is $325-$400 depending on the vendor, I can build my own for $200-$225, maybe less

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    just saying i love my Powerall.

    no need to replace the battery on the sled if this little battery fires it form dead and no fuel, also the woodchipper, 4wheeler, motorcycles, v8 truck, cell phones etc...


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    This looks interesting. Works good you say?

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Even though we have a jump box, was curious about the DIY route.

    These guys have 25’ of 1/0 gauge copper in red or black for $89 delivered, so it looks like you can do this for well within your budget.

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Even though we have a jump box, was curious about the DIY route.

    These guys have 25’ of 1/0 gauge copper in red or black for $89 delivered, so it looks like you can do this for well within your budget.
    Hows that, you need 50 feet of cable to make a 25' jumper = $170
    I also wonder if it is Class K copper cable with #30 ga strands, or Class M cable has #34 ga strands

    edit, I see that it s class K cable, that's is actually rather expensive, you can get class M for that price

    65 more per foot, and it's not even class m

    Welding Cable • Cut by the Foot from $0.62/ft | Wire & Cable Your Way

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    I've got a whole bunch of brand new welding cable that I would sell you for cheap if you wanted to make your own. It's 4AWG and I've got about 20 feet of red and about 25 feet of black.

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    I've bought a fair amount of THHN wire and SOOW cable from them and never had an issue.

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    Re: Jumper Cables

    I went cheap and wired my flux capacitor with k and not m. I was stuck i the future until I borrowed Randy's new jumper cables to get me home. Those homemade cables come out real nice, Randy. Keep up the good work. Oh, and watch those falling icicles (hint hint).

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