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    Question LCD or Plasma?


    So, I'm looking to buy a flat-screen and
    I'm not sure which to go with. I'm looking for a
    42" or larger. Mostly used for tv and movies. Not much
    gaming.

    What suggestions can you guys and gals give me? Brands that you like and
    dislike etc.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    I'm partial to LCD. Though if I ever buy a flat I HAVE to buy an LCD because of the Military and moving.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Thanks for the link Chris
    The room is 30 x 15 - I'm thinking Plasma is the way to go

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Bill,

    I've got online access to consumer reports and they've been changing the ratings like every few months...guess that's how fast technology is updating itself these days. Anyhow, if there's a particular brand you're thinking of going with, let me know the size/model and I'll send you the report (if you even care wtf they say).

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Bill,

    I've got online access to consumer reports and they've been changing the ratings like every few months...guess that's how fast technology is updating itself these days. Anyhow, if there's a particular brand you're thinking of going with, let me know the size/model and I'll send you the report (if you even care wtf they say).
    Thanks Nix....that's awesome.
    Once I narrow down the models I will definitely PM you.
    Consumer Reports usually hits the nail on the head with reviews.

    Thanks again!

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Does no one use the search function?

    http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...u-suggest.html

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Bill,

    I've got online access to consumer reports and they've been changing the ratings like every few months...guess that's how fast technology is updating itself these days. Anyhow, if there's a particular brand you're thinking of going with, let me know the size/model and I'll send you the report (if you even care wtf they say).

    I care. What are they saying is the best valued 42 inch flatscreen?

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Does no one use the search function?

    http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...u-suggest.html

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    Thanks Douche bag

    Nix - I PM'd you my email address if you wouldn't mind
    sending me the most recent LCD reviews.
    Thanks again buddy.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Each technology has pros and cons so ultimately you will have to look at a number of products and determine what you like.

    Plasmas have better black levels than LCDs. Even the high end LCD panels get some backlight bleed through and are out classed by even low end plasmas.

    LCDs generally produce brighter colors than plasmas. The backlight of LCDs can produce more light than a full-on (white) plasma with no risk of burn-in allowing brighter saturated colors.

    LCDs can not suffer from burn-in where plasmas can. Early plasmas would burn-in fairly easily but technology improvements have significantly reduced the likelihood but haven't eliminated it. The same degredation mechanism that causes burn-in will also cause a plasma panel to become duller towards the end of its functional life. You can see this in bars and restaurants that have plasmas that are rarely shut off. The picture looks muddy and dull. LCDs don't run into this problem but over time their backlights do wear out.

    For fast motion sources there are issues with both panels. Cheap LCDs will have ghosting because of mechanical lag in the liquid crystal. Cheap plasmas will have phospor lag causing the same phenomenon. This is rarely an issue with better quality LCDs and plasmas.

    LCDs are superior by a good size margin in the power consumption department. Plasmas technology requires more power and this is not going to change any time soon.

    In terms of resolution, both LCDs and Plasmas are available in full HD (1920x1080) but high end LCDs with this resolution are a fair bit cheaper than the equivalent high end plasma. Don't waste your time or money on anything less than a full HD panel.

    In the low to middle range segment, plasmas have a superior viewing angle to LCDs. Cheap LCDs when viewed from the side will start turning grey. More expensive LCDs do not have this problem from any normal viewing angle.

    If you are putting the panel in a room with a lot of light, an LCD will be a better choice. Besides being brighter, many LCDs have a matte finish on the panel which greatly reduces glare from lights in the room. Most if not all plasmas and a few makes of LCDs have a glossy finish which reflect any bit of light present in the room and it can become annoying very quickly.

    I'm sure there are more points that I missed but I can't think of them at the moment.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    I was looking at TVs for a while and I ultimately decided on an LCD.

    Probably the biggest deciding factor to me was the glare you get from plasmas. Quality LCD panels do such a good job at reducing the glare that it wasn't even a contest. While the black levels of the plasma are nice, it's useless if you can't see the screen in the first place.

    Another reason I chose LCD has to do with the way the screen information is refreshed on the panel. Without getting into nerdy detail about the differences in their operation, in certain video motion situations plasmas have some artifacting that for whatever reason my eyes are sensitive to. I couldn't detect the phenomenon in the high end Pioneer Elite plasmas but they still suffered from excessive glare and a price tag that is about $2500 more than the equivalent high end LCD.

    You really need to go to a store and look at a number of sets of different types from different manufacturers. Make the sales people hook up a 1080P source to every TV that you are interested in and take your time making a decision. Ultimately the one that makes you happy is the best one!

    And don't let the sales people tell you that you can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080i. That may be true on less than full HD panels but if you view those sources on a true 1080 screen the 1080i looks much better. 1080P sources like Blu-ray simply look stunning!

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Unless you are planning to hang it on the wall...and have thought through all the issues that come with that...why not consider DPL as well?

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    I have plasma is in the living room. I love it. The only thing to also keep in mind was that the articulating mount for my tv was around $350.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    I've always bought LCDs and have yet to be disappointed. Your best bet is to see the TV you want in person and judge how you like it.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    I care. What are they saying is the best valued 42 inch flatscreen?
    As of TODAY, CR is promoting the Toshiba REGZA 42HL167 as its "Best Buy". it's got the 1080p (true HD) and price quoted is $1,150. History tells me one could probably get it for a few hundy bucks lower.

    Can't forget about all the peripheral cable costs too...and what a bitch to set up (for my retarded ass, anyway).

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    One more ting...Sony (for some reason I almost wrote Honda??? ) has stopped making Plasmas all together. To me (granted, a fargin icehole), that says a lot.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    One more ting...Sony (for some reason I almost wrote Honda??? ) has stopped making Plasmas all together. To me (granted, a fargin icehole), that says a lot.
    Plasma is a dying technology. Everyone is focusing on LCD. They are already working on developing Laser Tv's, see vid below:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6wsJRGqnQ

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    Wow, that's pretty cool

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZX-12R View Post
    And don't let the sales people tell you that you can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080i. That may be true on less than full HD panels but if you view those sources on a true 1080 screen the 1080i looks much better. 1080P sources like Blu-ray simply look stunning!
    What about from a distance of 10-feet or less? I really don't think I can tell the difference. Plus, I'm not interested in getting a BluRay anytime soon. So I'm thinking about just going with the 720. I really only watch sports and porn so I think I'll be fine.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    With laser due out this year. I'm going to hold off on buying my LCD and see what the deal is with laser. They are saying the price is going to be comparable to LCD. If so, im going straight to laser.

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyBilly View Post
    With laser due out this year. I'm going to hold off on buying my LCD and see what the deal is with laser. They are saying the price is going to be comparable to LCD. If so, im going straight to laser.
    I bet laser will be much better for porn

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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by KillBill View Post
    I bet laser will be much better for porn
    No shit!!!!!! I wonder what the power consumption is going to be. When I think laser, im under the impression is going to suck some serious juice (yes that sounds dirty).

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    It's gonna be a cumguzzlin power sucker dude
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    Re: LCD or Plasma?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisNoF4i View Post
    What about from a distance of 10-feet or less? I really don't think I can tell the difference. Plus, I'm not interested in getting a BluRay anytime soon. So I'm thinking about just going with the 720. I really only watch sports and porn so I think I'll be fine.
    If you can't tell the difference then you are in a great position to save yourself a bunch of money. I would go to a store and view a bunch of panels. Write down the ones you wouldn't mind in your house and buy the least expensive of the bunch.

    If your life ever depends on having to distinguish between a nipple and an elbow from point blank range, a 1080 panel will make all the difference!

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