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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car


    One thing to keep in mind is that older cars (by and large) are easier to work on, and consumable parts for older cars (by and large) are much cheaper than current cars.

    For example, the power steering pump on my El Camino was bad and I had to swap it out. The new power steering pump was $34.79 and took me about 20 minutes to swap out. When the power steering pump on my '01 Subaru Outback died, it was hundreds of dollars for the pump and a huge pain in the ass to swap out.

    The more common the car -- or more importantly, the more common the platform -- the cheaper the parts will be. They made these cars by the tens of millions, after all.

    Doing common-sense upgrades like better carbs and true HEI ignition (not fucking points and condensers and that garbage) makes a big difference when it comes to reliability.

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

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    So many cool options from that era, I won't bother with any specific recommendations (*ahem*C10 pickup*ahem*) but here's a few things to think about:
    All original is all the money. It has a cool factor and big time value if you're a serious collector but ultimately they're a show piece not a driver an require a good deal of work to maintain. I think the smartest thing you could do is buy something in the resto-mod category. #1, they are valued significantly less than a numbers matching original. #2, you get modern running gear like fuel injection, overdrive transmission, good brakes, good suspension, and likely all done recently. Most importantly for you all of those things will have you driving more and wrenching (paying for wrenching) less.
    I would recommend finding a broker or local dealer who deals in classics. If you don't wrench and aren't knowledgeable on the subject, you could easily write a $20k check for a total turd. Research who is in your area and what their reputation is, then go in and have a chat. They'll be able to find something in your budget that you can buy with confidence.
    This is great advice, though it appears SWMBO has already ruled out restomods.

    Personally I'd head South. While at Fort Benning, GA bought an 18yo VW Beetle that still had the original finish on the undercarriage: almost no rust at all. The newer ones I had up here were ready for the junkyard.

    My brother lives in TX and old cars there have faded paint and ratty interiors from the sun, but rust is seldom a consideration- unless the vehicle was brought there by a transplant. Places like Dallas and Las Vegas seem to have pretty active vintage car markets.

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

    I think she ruled out modern retros, not resto mods

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    I will never buy another classic/vintage/antique car from New England, unless it's only been here for a couple of years and I can go over every inch of the fuckin' thing with a magnet and a screwdriver.

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    Mid 60's Thunderbird coupe. Cheap, dead reliable and not hard to find. Plus they are pretty friggin cool to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    I think she ruled out modern retros, not resto mods
    Correct, restomods are ok, but new retro is not. From what I've seen resto mods are pricey due to all the updates engine, transmission, suspension, etc...But does sound like it could be a viable option if we could find one within our budget.

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    I LOVED my 77 Austin Mini, but a highway car it is not. Mine was more of a racecar...

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

    Woman unit wanted 60's vette (I didn't want to fix it constantly), I talked her into modern vette in sheep's clothing.

    Keep trying, maybe you can help her see the light. Good luck!

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    Get her a test drive in an older resto-mod car, then get her a ride in a new retro designed car. I think you'll find that would sell the newer car. So many people have these grand ideas of getting an older muscle car (or Jeep, or truck, etc) and drive it daily because it would be cool. They get to ride in one and the idea goes sour pretty quick (especially the Jeep CJ thing, ask me why I have this opinion).

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    All I can do is shake my head at this thread...this poor guy's head must be spinning with misinformation. Fact is, 95% of cars made in the 60's-early 70's were available in standard transmission. Some models will be hard to find. Cars from that era are not only easier and cheaper to maintain, they are more reliable. Gas, tires, oil....that's it. Convert points-ignition cars to modern ignition. Definitely has to have front disc brakes...but most from that era did. Expect to have to go through the front end (Tie rods, pitman arm, end links, ball joints, etc.). There are many from that era in near-restored mostly original condition for 15-20k. I was looking myself last October before I bought my Vette. I've owned a few classics, built quite a few, and used to judge classic car shows. C3 vette is a great choice. If you were willing to extend into the smog years (all the way to 82), you can find a fantastic deal on a C3. With a few exceptions, classic European cars are unreliable money pits, and don't make great "cruisers". I can't believe someone suggested a 911....seriously? VW beetles....talk about loud! They struggle to do 65mph...definitely not a cruising car. Stay away from anything 4 cylinder or V-6. Straight six cars can be had for less than V8 and are a great choice, usually. Most full-size American cars from that era are actually quite quiet inside. One option is to find a nice vehicle that's an automatic, and install a semi-manual valvebody. You can shift it manually if you want, or just put it in "Drive" and go! Spend extra on something that is complete, in excellent shape, and has been taken care of. You can spend 15k on a complete Classic in amazing condition, or spend 5k on a basket case and spend 30k to complete it. Unless you're looking for a particular model with particular options, it's not worth buying a basket case. Search ebay for completed listings on particular models you're interested in. It's a good place to find out what prices they are actually selling for. i've seen some nice originals sell for real cheap due to no reserve. Scour Craigslist. You can filter years, makes, models, etc. I've seen some really nice 70's classics pop up on there for short money. Don't be afraid to travel several hundred miles to get what you're looking for....it will be worth it in the end.

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

    Quote Originally Posted by Fitron View Post
    VW beetles....talk about loud! They struggle to do 65mph...definitely not a cruising car. Stay away from anything 4 cylinder or V-6.
    Really, never had a problem maintaining 85-90 mph on the highway with the '68 Beetle (1500cc) I had, ya, it may have slowed to 75-80 going up a long steep grade, but on the downhill end, it could easily do "OIL" mph, at least that is where the speedo needle was pointed, 30-35mph, easy to work on, my brother has a '58 (36hp/1200cc) Transporter, that did struggle to do 65mph till he put a race car motor in it

    and Buick, made a wonderful aluminum V-6

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    Your wife is saying "no" to a lot of things. Maybe she can tell you the exact car she had in mind and you guys go from there.


    For $5k, there's this 78 Porsche on CL. Dump the remaining $15k of your budget into it and end up with everything you're asking for and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Your wife is saying "no" to a lot of things. Maybe she can tell you the exact car she had in mind and you guys go from there.


    For $5k, there's this 78 Porsche on CL. Dump the remaining $15k of your budget into it and end up with everything you're asking for and more.
    I think she helped define the requirements pretty well... I like that 944 but it's really got the beginnings of the styling we have on cars today. Not much for retro vibe. Late 60's, early 70's, manual, <$20k. Not Japanese.

    Is the goal to have a muscle car, like the Camaro or 442? Or a big boat, like an old Cadillac or Chrysler 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    I LOVED my 77 Austin Mini, but a highway car it is not. Mine was more of a racecar...
    My dad had an Austin America when I was really young, still bigger than a mini, but that car was a blast to go for rides in!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    Get her a test drive in an older resto-mod car, then get her a ride in a new retro designed car. I think you'll find that would sell the newer car. So many people have these grand ideas of getting an older muscle car (or Jeep, or truck, etc) and drive it daily because it would be cool. They get to ride in one and the idea goes sour pretty quick (especially the Jeep CJ thing, ask me why I have this opinion).
    You would think that, but my wife loves the smell of regular gasoline and race fuel!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Your wife is saying "no" to a lot of things. Maybe she can tell you the exact car she had in mind and you guys go from there.


    For $5k, there's this 78 Porsche on CL. Dump the remaining $15k of your budget into it and end up with everything you're asking for and more.

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    If my wife had her way, she'd have a 50's Ford or Chevrolet pickup. We do a lot with our nieces and nephews, and I convinced her that probably wasn't the best choice due to only 2 seats, and our garage is small. So she landed next on 60's to 70's muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    Is the goal to have a muscle car, like the Camaro or 442? Or a big boat, like an old Cadillac or Chrysler 300?
    From all the conversations we've had, her top list would be:
    Late 60-early 70's Chevelle, Skylark, LeMans, Cutlass, Duster, or Dart

    I love the 70's Trans-Am's, but she's not a fan...I thought this way we could potentially get t-tops since a convertible of the cars she likes is not really in the budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiller Ayuh View Post
    my wife loves the smell of regular gasoline and race fuel!!
    Trade you my 60's pony car for your wife?

    I hope this works out well for you, I thought about adding some why-it's-not-a-good-ideas, but life's short, and plenty of other people can drive the Priuses. Nice thing about an old car, if you buy it right and maintain it, you can always get your money back, and keep the fun memories. I think anything made between '71 and '86 is an eyesore. You're gonna learn a ton about car fixin', and have to listen to endless reminiscences from strangers about the time their uncle beat everyone at the drag strip with his slant six.

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

    Lined up 2 really different cars to test drive tomorrow...A Chevelle with a 396, 4spd, disc's in the front, pretty much stock suspension...Other is a pro touring car, with a modern 350, 5spd, aftermarket front suspension, 4 wheel discs, etc...Hopefully this will direct what we'll look for, unless we decide we can't leave without one of them. I'll let you know what my driving impressions are.

    Appreciate all the info from everyone!!

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    Re: Looking for help/advice on 60's-70's car

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiller Ayuh View Post
    Lined up 2 really different cars to test drive tomorrow...A Chevelle with a 396, 4spd, disc's in the front, pretty much stock suspension...Other is a pro touring car, with a modern 350, 5spd, aftermarket front suspension, 4 wheel discs, etc...Hopefully this will direct what we'll look for, unless we decide we can't leave without one of them. I'll let you know what my driving impressions are.

    Appreciate all the info from everyone!!

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    With that kind of purchase, it would not be a bad idea to have a prepurchase inspection done by a local classic shop. At the very least, any mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Your wife is saying "no" to a lot of things. Maybe she can tell you the exact car she had in mind and you guys go from there.


    For $5k, there's this 78 Porsche on CL. Dump the remaining $15k of your budget into it and end up with everything you're asking for and more.

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    Too bad they started making the 944 in 1982....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwm2k3 View Post
    Too bad they started making the 944 in 1982....
    From the ad: ". . . 1978 Porsche with a 944 body kit." Probably a 924 with lipstick (944 body kit). The 924 was produced form 1976 to 1988.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Really, never had a problem maintaining 85-90 mph on the highway with the '68 Beetle (1500cc) I had, ya, it may have slowed to 75-80 going up a long steep grade, but on the downhill end, it could easily do "OIL" mph, at least that is where the speedo needle was pointed, 30-35mph, easy to work on, my brother has a '58 (36hp/1200cc) Transporter, that did struggle to do 65mph till he put a race car motor in it

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    I've always had a hankering for an old Karmann Ghia or a Volvo P1800



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