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    Metal Roofs


    I love em, sound of rain pattering in summer sometimes a roar, and avalanches in the winter.

    the avalanches can be thunderous, when 50 cu. yds. of snow slide off in just a couple seconds

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    I'm looking to put a metal roof on our lakehouse. I'm surprised at the criticism I get for this. People talk about them being loud and ugly. I think the sound kind of enhances the "camp" experience. It's a 75 year old cottage that's still mostly original but well kept. There have been several updates done where it makes sense and in way that retains it's original form. I don't think the look of a metal roof would be off base from the camp theme and I will never have to worry about putting another one on.

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    I love the look and sound of metal roofs. Just put an unpainted one on our house. Didn't even have to remove the old roof.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    Ours has a foam underpayment. Don’t find it any louder than asphalt roofs.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    I like em.

    Assumed they were cheap.

    Apparently they are more expensive than shingle?

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    Last longer, less maintenance?

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    love the look, we just put one on a new screened porch and will add a few more metal accents or skirts to complete the theme, e.g. skirt above the garage doors. the existing roof is asphalt.

    haven't heard rain yet, project is still in progress, but we had an avalanche wife sends a text over weekend ... 'WTF IS THAT NOISE!!'

    yes, more expensive for sure.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    THere are definitely degrees of expensive. Any where from similar to architectural shingle prices, to double the cost. It also depends on the complexity of you roof as cutting i valleys etc can get out of hand. Our simple barn house was an ideal candidate and it came in only a little more than shingle. But we opted to use a simple bolt on solution as we jus put on some strapping right on top of our old roof and bolted to that. Even if the metal roof leaks, we still have asphalt.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    I like em.

    Assumed they were cheap.

    Apparently they are more expensive than shingle?

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    Last longer, less maintenance?
    yes, a lot less maintenance, my dad recently replaced a 175 year old standing seam roof with a new powder coated one, the old one needed occasional paint, I think he painted it twice in 60 years. needed paint again, but he replaced instead

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    Pre avalanche, post avalanche, summer.


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    Re: Metal Roofs

    and no need to ever shovel/rake snow

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    We're looking for a good contractor to install one on our house this year.

    My father is vehemently opposed to metal roofs for residential homes. He has a very particular opinion of what a house should look like and thinks metal looks cheap and tacky. To his eye the house is shit unless it is a perfectly proportioned center-chimney cape with period correct reproduction fixtures and paint. Casement windows? Sky-lights? GTFO!! "Just move to Florida already".

    He also served on a local hysterical society for a while until homeowners kept telling the society to go to hell when they told them they couldn't remodel their 150 year old homes.

    I think he's insane. Possibly senile. I like to get him going about this and other absurdity.

    Other than him, I don't know many that seem really repulsed by metal.

    My wife is excited as she feels the metal is a far more environmentally friendly roofing because it can (theoretically) be recycled where fiberglass shingles basically aren't.

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    "local hysterical society" THAT is great!

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    I'd love to have metal roofing. It just makes far more sense.

    I have never heard any compelling reason against it.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    I am very close to going all in on metal roofing for interior, exterior, and even roof on a new structure. 20 trouble free years on my house, except trying to snow rake the almost flat porch roof with screws on the ridge. In my experience it's far more likely to be repurposed than recycled. If it's coming off, someone's putting it on their woodpile, shed, or hipster bar.

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    Did someone say hipster bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Did someone say hipster bar?

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    Re: Metal Roofs

    I'll be replacing the roof on the old farmhouse likely much sooner than needed. The contractor that replaced the roof 4 years ago did a horrible job.
    Replacing it with metal next time for sure, likely within the next 5 years.
    The main reason I want metal, is to create a "cold" roof venting system to eliminate ice dams. It's impossible to vent my house the way it's built and finished inside, and ice dams are a constant problem. Had the roofer installed the ice&water shield correctly, it'd be less of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    I'll be replacing the roof on the old farmhouse likely much sooner than needed. The contractor that replaced the roof 4 years ago did a horrible job.
    Replacing it with metal next time for sure, likely within the next 5 years.
    The main reason I want metal, is to create a "cold" roof venting system to eliminate ice dams. It's impossible to vent my house the way it's built and finished inside, and ice dams are a constant problem. Had the roofer installed the ice&water shield correctly, it'd be less of an issue.
    Ugh, ice damns at my last place were a big motivator for this metal roof. It does have a cold space. I think you were the one who first explained that to me. This home has heated living up to the roof, so ice dams were a concern. Zero issues now. A great side benefit is that in the summer the second floor rooms don't heat up in the sun. The roof solved 2 issues at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    We're looking for a good contractor to install one on our house this year.

    My father is vehemently opposed to metal roofs for residential homes. He has a very particular opinion of what a house should look like and thinks metal looks cheap and tacky. To his eye the house is shit unless it is a perfectly proportioned center-chimney cape with period correct reproduction fixtures and paint. Casement windows? Sky-lights? GTFO!! "Just move to Florida already".

    He also served on a local hysterical society for a while until homeowners kept telling the society to go to hell when they told them they couldn't remodel their 150 year old homes.

    I think he's insane. Possibly senile. I like to get him going about this and other absurdity.

    Other than him, I don't know many that seem really repulsed by metal.

    My wife is excited as she feels the metal is a far more environmentally friendly roofing because it can (theoretically) be recycled where fiberglass shingles basically aren't.
    If it's a simple roof, consider doing standing seam yourself. Jackson Lumber in Raymond sells Fabral and I've used it twice from there with excellent results. It has to be measured carefully and ordered because the panels are all pre-cut to length at the factory, but once you have the pieces, it goes up really quickly and you only need a couple of special tools that you can get at Jackson.

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    No hips. Two valleys.. one kind of tricky the other very straight forward.

    I don't think I'm up for that. Not with a baby in the house. I am not.. uh.. efficient when working at heights. And I work slow enough as it is. At my rate we'd be without a roof for a month. I think I'll be outsourcing this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    The main reason I want metal, is to create a "cold" roof venting system to eliminate ice dams. It's impossible to vent my house the way it's built and finished inside, and ice dams are a constant problem. Had the roofer installed the ice&water shield correctly, it'd be less of an issue.
    Tell me more. I've had a couple contractors tell me this isn't a thing.

    My shingled roof is on borrowed time. Possibly about to fail. I believe I'm far better off stripping it and putting the metal directly onto the sheathing rather than going over the old roof (2 courses in places). I've also had contractors split 50/50 between "you can go right over that" and "better strip it first".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    No hips. Two valleys.. one kind of tricky the other very straight forward.

    I don't think I'm up for that. Not with a baby in the house. I am not.. uh.. efficient when working at heights. And I work slow enough as it is. At my rate we'd be without a roof for a month. I think I'll be outsourcing this one.



    Tell me more. I've had a couple contractors tell me this isn't a thing.

    My shingled roof is on borrowed time. Possibly about to fail. I believe I'm far better off stripping it and putting the metal directly onto the sheathing rather than going over the old roof (2 courses in places). I've also had contractors split 50/50 between "you can go right over that" and "better strip it first".
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    You can get metal roofs that aren't slab like, they look like slate shingles. Less avalanche, same durability, higher cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    You can get metal roofs that aren't slab like, they look like slate shingles. Less avalanche, same durability, higher cost.
    Super nice and super expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    No hips. Two valleys.. one kind of tricky the other very straight forward.

    I don't think I'm up for that. Not with a baby in the house. I am not.. uh.. efficient when working at heights. And I work slow enough as it is. At my rate we'd be without a roof for a month. I think I'll be outsourcing this one.





    My shingled roof is on borrowed time. Possibly about to fail. I believe I'm far better off stripping it and putting the metal directly onto the sheathing rather than going over the old roof (2 courses in places). I've also had contractors split 50/50 between "you can go right over that" and "better strip it first".
    I think the cold roof idea is to put the roofing on strapping that runs from the ridge to the drip edge, so that it does not touch the plywood directly. It leaves a gap that vents quite nicely with no obstruction of airflow. I have not done this though, so can't say for sure. I don't really think it matters though, with a metal roof, ice dams are irrelevant unless they reach the ridge vent.

    I hear ya on inefficiency at height, I'm the same... Took me a week of evenings after work and two weekends to replace the shingles (with shingles) on my garage roof. It has 4 long valleys and 3 ridges, so there was a ton of shingle cutting.

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    Maybe I can do this. Rent some scaffolding so the fall has a stop mid-way down; once sliding down the roof, then off the scaffolding. This seems like a nice way to drive up my ibuprofen use. I don't get to track ride much anymore these days after-all.


    Do you guys advocate going over shingles? Or stripping to bare wood?
    Do you put water shield/bituthene/grace under the metal? I understand it is code to do at least the first 3 or 6' on a shingle roof nowadays.

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