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Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    ^^ this guy is still butt hurt bicycles don't come equipped with a clutch and 3 on the tree
    Honest question though. For the user who doesn't race...it seems to me that tubeless is more trouble than it is worth.

    Have to check fluid level and clean rim and top off/replace fluid. And I have also seen tires not being able to be reinflated when they go flat on the trail.

    Tubes are easy. Carry a spare or two and you're good to go. Relatively easy to swap and inflate in a jiffy.

    Really having problems seeing this as an improvement.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Honest question though. For the user who doesn't race...it seems to me that tubeless is more trouble than it is worth.

    Have to check fluid level and clean rim and top off/replace fluid. And I have also seen tires not being able to be reinflated when they go flat on the trail.

    Tubes are easy. Carry a spare or two and you're good to go. Relatively easy to swap and inflate in a jiffy.

    Really having problems seeing this as an improvement.
    Tubeless makes a ton of sense for everyone on mountain bikes and gravel bikes. No more pinch flats. Small leaks repair themselves. I'm not gonna argue they let you run lower pressure than standard tubed set-ups. You're going to run the same pressure regardless. You are just much less likely to flat with the tubeless. There is a small learning curve with setting up and repairing on trail, but the same can be said for tubes. You may take it for granted, but others riding a bike for the first time are intimated with even changing a tube. You need a good CO2 inflator to guarantee the rim re-sets on the trail. Carry one tube for safety sake in case it doesn't or the tire gets wrecked. In regards to checking fluid: between replacing/changing tires and fixing the occasional flat, you don't need to do this more than once a year. Its also as simple as popping off the bead, taking a look, and adding if needed. I don't measure shit, just wing it using vision and the measurements built into the side of the sealant container.

    Doesn't really matter for road. It is better for comfort because you can run lower pressures, but unless you get some slick rolling tires (usually expensive and not heavy duty) you are going to add a ton of resistance.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Tubeless FTW!!! As far as wheels go the new bontrager mtn wheels are pretty decent for their price. Just got a set of Line 30’s for for fs bike.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Honest question though. For the user who doesn't race...it seems to me that tubeless is more trouble than it is worth.

    Have to check fluid level and clean rim and top off/replace fluid. And I have also seen tires not being able to be reinflated when they go flat on the trail.

    Tubes are easy. Carry a spare or two and you're good to go. Relatively easy to swap and inflate in a jiffy.

    Really having problems seeing this as an improvement.
    Your only experience is with a ghetto setup on that far bike. Rims that are taped with real tape AND manufactured to be tubeless, paired with tubeless specific tires are as maintenance free as they get. Filled with the correct amount of a sealer that doesn’t evaporate (aka, not stans sealant), you can more or less forget about topping things off.
    A good sealant will last about as long as yourctire will, on a mountain bike.
    I’ve tried it for road, and I’m not convinced. However, they just made a tubeless version of the gp4000, so I may give it another go. After, that is, the set of tires I have waiting to mount up is done.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    If you think tubeless is a pain, look up tubular tires. Back in the day you road around with a pre-glued tire in your pocket in case you got a flat.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Honest question though. For the user who doesn't race...it seems to me that tubeless is more trouble than it is worth.
    Yeah, it's the other way around. Tubes are more trouble than it's worth. Plus, what Jay and Chip said.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Interesting. Thanks for the info. Would the Stan's conversion kit be "legit"? Don't know if it would be worth buying wheels.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Not really. The stans conversion kit was state of the art in 2002-3. Since they actually make tubeless tires and rims now, it’s really not worth the effort.

    So, don’t be the Bhavesh of bicycles, and step into this century. Things are better, there’s no reason for a noob like yourself to be a pretend Luddite. You didn’t grow up with that antiquated crap, so there’s little sense in wasting energy and money on it now, beyond getting something cheap to see if you actually like the sport or not.
    You appear to be “in”, so you deserve decent equipment.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Fuck. Bhavesh of bicycles...

    I'll start looking for tubeless ready 26" on pinkbike.

    I assume it would make the most sense to start with the downhill bike since it has the most chance of getting a pinch flat?

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    26 is dead. Move on with your life.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    26 is dead. Move on with your life.
    Maybe I could replace the Cannondale after I sell the yz. Then it becomes a question of fs vs ht.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I have a set of black I9 Enduro 27.5 wheels (non-boost) set up tubeless with Maxxis Minions and a Fox Factory 36 160mm fork if anyone is in the market.

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