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    Head injuries are strange things, it can be like dealing with a belligerent drunk. Hopefully he's not mountain lion food.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I've decided my commute is bikeable, but I unfortunately unloaded my commuter before the move. Thinking about picking up a Specialized Diverge E5 Comp. Also considering a Jamis Renegade Expat. The Jamis is cheaper and objectively better suited for the job, but I rode the Diverge and immediately loved it. The Jamis is just a solid workhouse, nothing exciting about it. Thoughts?

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    I wouldn’t overlook the straggler in that same type of bike. Many shops might not stock it, but they can all get it.
    Sprinkle with the part of your choice and smash on.

    If I’m to elaborate, I want a drop bar bike with clearance for a 45 front and rear for graveling, and I’ll use another set of wheels that are lighter and faster for regular road duty.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Unfortunately I can't find a Straggler locally. Rode a flat bar Cross Check yesterday and wasn't feeling it though. Just felt kind of dead and heavy. I was surprised because I have liked other Surlys I've ridden.

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    Get the bike you want. Worry about the money later

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    Zeroing in on the Road/Gravel segment as opposed to the light tourers. The Cannondale Topstone 105 and Canyon Grail AL now look like the value buys. Still love the riding feel of the Diverge, but max 38c on the rear, mechanical brakes, and potential repair liability of the Future Shock are turning me off.

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    I’ll take mechanical brakes over sram hydros 8 days a goddam week.
    Do not buy.
    Shimano hydraulic brakes are much easier to live with, and open further upon release, giving less disk rub.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I’ll take mechanical brakes over sram hydros 8 days a goddam week.


    I have SRAM Rival hydro disc on my CX bike, and my son has TRP Spyre C mechanical with 5800 105 levers on his bike. There is no way I would ever choose mechanical over hydro. As far as rub goes, my CX bike gets the piss beat out of it and as long as I make sure the caliper is centered over the disc I am fine.

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    I have SRAM Rival hydro disc on my CX bike, and my son has TRP Spyre C mechanical with 5800 105 levers on his bike. There is no way I would ever choose mechanical over hydro. As far as rub goes, my CX bike gets the piss beat out of it and as long as I make sure the caliper is centered over the disc I am fine.
    I had sram force on 2 different setups and no matter what, nor how much bleeding took place, I couldn’t get them to not rub under medium to aggressive cornering and stand up wattage throwdowns. I walk a fine line between being meticulous and anal, and I can assure you, I wasn’t doing it wrong. The product just sucks.
    Coincidentally, I replaced them with force shifters and trp mechanical calipers set nice and loose, and I’m happy as a pig in shit. I could load this thing up with touring junk, and corner or ride as hard as I want, and I’d never hear a peep out of them.
    It has everything to do with the caliper not opening enough when you let go of the lever, and the inference flex in both frames, a cf cross bike (built to be stout) and a steel cross-ish bike.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I had sram force on 2 different setups and no matter what, nor how much bleeding took place, I couldn’t get them to not rub under medium to aggressive cornering and stand up wattage throwdowns. I walk a fine line between being meticulous and anal, and I can assure you, I wasn’t doing it wrong. The product just sucks.
    Coincidentally, I replaced them with force shifters and trp mechanical calipers set nice and loose, and I’m happy as a pig in shit. I could load this thing up with touring junk, and corner or ride as hard as I want, and I’d never hear a peep out of them.
    It has everything to do with the caliper not opening enough when you let go of the lever, and the inference flex in both frames, a cf cross bike (built to be stout) and a steel cross-ish bike.
    I don't disagree with the intermittent rubbing. The impact is just negligible. However, this is a sport of marginal gains. Its funny that we switch roles here...usually you don't care about the marginal gains and I flip out about them.

    I've have three iterations of SRAM HRD (hydraulic road disc) in a CX application: first gen cx1 HRD, one stop in the middle, and now I have the most current. It has gotten better, no doubt about it. The other difference is how it mounts. Post mounts suck, no way around it. I think this is what you should be hating on. Flat mount rules. It never goes out of adjustment. As long as the caliber opens up straight, even if it just opens a little, it won't rub. Seems like you are compensating for a bad mounting system by opening up your caliber.

    I also have HRD Etap on my road bike. It is the best system yet, but I hate the fact they changed the bleed port on the caliber, but kept it the same on the lever.

    I admit I had some hatred for the SRAM HRD in the early phases, but now I love it. I have heard Shimano is easier to use/maintain, but no first hand experience. Cable disc works just fine as well. It takes more adjustment as pads wear out, but it is easier to work on and does not require any additional tools. You lose brake feel, which you can argue all day doesn't mean jack on a road or CX bike. Me, I trail brake like a mofo all the time when I'm getting after it.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I still had rub on the rockitship even with flat mount calipers. And thru axles.
    A bad mountain system? I’m talking about sram force.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I still had rub on the rockitship even with flat mount calipers. And thru axles.
    A bad mountain system? I’m talking about sram force.
    mounting*

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I’ll take mechanical brakes over sram hydros 8 days a goddam week.
    Do not buy.
    Shimano hydraulic brakes are much easier to live with, and open further upon release, giving less disk rub.
    I was leaning toward SRAM Rival 1, but now I'm thinking 105 is the safer bet. Will have to read more about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    I was leaning toward SRAM Rival 1, but now I'm thinking 105 is the safer bet. Will have to read more about this
    Can't go wrong with either. Once you're in the rival or 105 camp you're getting a real good product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    I was leaning toward SRAM Rival 1, but now I'm thinking 105 is the safer bet. Will have to read more about this
    I have 105 hydraulic disks on my road bike and they've been flawless for the year that I've had it. My only minor niggle is I can hear the pads rattle a bit over really rough pavement.

    My wife's Cannondale Synapse 105 came with mechanical disks that were terrible. New pads probably would have helped a bunch but I decided to just replace them with a pair of TRP HY/RD hydraulic calipers that let her keep her 105 cable brake shifters/levers. Much better.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I would like to upgrade my son's setup, but he will really need a whole new bike. His CAADX is heavy as a mofo.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    What qualifies as heavy as a mofo these days?

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    I've never put a scale on any of my bikes, but they all seem to weigh exactly the same with 2 full water bottles and a full seat bag.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    What qualifies as heavy as a mofo these days?
    >20lbs

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Smutty got a new bike like a week or so ago. Spill it. How much better is life on current tech?

    Better than being the "Bhavesh of Bicycles?"

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by JettaJayGLS View Post
    Smutty got a new bike like a week or so ago. Spill it. How much better is life on current tech?

    Better than being the "Bhavesh of Bicycles?"
    Not gonna lie. I've made it through shit my second time riding this bike that I've never made it through before.

    It's pretty life altering.

    Glad I waited forever and a day for it to come in from Canada.
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    After this ride however I think I need a longer stem.

    It came with a 50mm and it's super twitchy. Gonna try a 80mm stem this week.

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    Just ride it.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Just ride it.
    Negative. Doesn't work well.

    Lbs has one I'm gonna try.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    How many posts does one need to post in these OT threads? Our MTB head intern signed up and says he can’t tell you all how wrong you are.

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