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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    UCI cross tire width is 33mm. There’s no way that’s fitting on your road bike.
    For what you’re likely to spend doing a mild conversion, you can most certainly grab a used cantilever style (prob aluminum, maybe steel) actual cross bike and give it hell.
    The more i'm looking at this bike, you are likely correct. I already have a 700x32 challenge grifo on the way, so I will try that for shits and giggles. when that confirms it won't work, i'll start shopping for a "beater" bike. there is a pretty nice Fuji cross 1.3 for sale in the area but it is a 58. i'm 5'11" on a good day, so I think its too big for me.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by iTGbuDeeV View Post
    there is a pretty nice Fuji cross 1.3 for sale in the area but it is a 58
    Link? That's my size.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I'm guessing there's not much interest in the TDF, was watching the other day and saw the support/camera bikes, Yamaha 3 wheelers:

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I've been watching the TDF and noticed those three wheelers. I'm guessing that they're easier to ride than a two wheeler at slow speeds with a cameraman standing up on the back?

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    All the reviews say that they balance almost exactly like a regular 2-wheeler. Is this not a paid Yamaha sponsorship/ad type thing?

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    Tim Johnson's Mt. Wachusett Gran Fondo tomorrow. Gonna be a warm one.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Ok, so I did a thing today.
    BMC Roadmachine X
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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    To add a little more definition to the purchase...I bought my Jamis Coda Sport at the beginning of spring '18 and I really just bought the wrong bike. I'd never really ridden a proper road bike and thought drop bars were a bit too racey for what I wanted to do. Well I've had the Coda for a season and a half and I just don't enjoy riding it. If I still lived in the city I think it would be a great bike with some flat pedals, it's comfortable and easy to ride and would work well putzing around Cambridge, getting on and off. I live out in the country and the relaxed upright position that's nice for shorter rides was a chore when I'd get out for anything longer than 1/2 an hour. On rides where I was trying to push it a bit I could still only get 12-14 mph average speed and I really want to be able to cover more ground. So long story short, I really liked the look of the Jamis Renegade Expat and I left the house today with full intent on buying one, I just decided to stop at Bikeworks in Swansea to check out the other options.

    I rode a Specialized Diverge E5 Elite (Tiagra 2x10 groupset, mechanical discs) first and liked it quite a lot, it rolled better than anything I've put a leg over (which isn't much) and I was comfortable in spite of being in a much more aggressive posture. Took it for a 3 mile loop.

    Then I rode a Cannondale Topstone (105 2x11, hyd discs) even though it was 2 sizes too small. I wanted to see what the 105 groupset was all about as I've heard it's basically the entry point to higher end groupsets. Well, realized pretty quickly I wasn't going to be happy long term with the Tiagra groupset, that is what's equipped on the Renegade Expat I was intent on buying. I liked the Topstone at this point, the flared drop bars let me open up my shoulders a bit more which helps (in theory?) with any lingering shoulder issues. What I didn't like was the 40c gravel tires, it didn't roll anywhere near as well as the 30mm more road oriented tires on the Diverge. So I thought OK, I'll shod it in some more road oriented tires and call it good, was ready to make the order for my size.

    I had walked past the BMC a few times and thought the 56 frame size was a bit too small for me but asked if I could give it a quick ride, they suggested putting a set of SPD's on it and taking it for a longer loop. So I did, and it was awesome. It accelerates like nothing I've ridden before and continues rolling really well when I got into my preferred cadence. It comes equipped with a Rival 1 1x11 groupset with flat mount hyd discs, although different than the 105 I just rode, the Rival has the same quality feel with snappy positive shifts. Although not as intuitive as the Shimano setup, I found the SRAM shifter to work better riding in the drops. They were able to offer me a 10% discount on the bike which brought it in closer to the price of the Topstone, and once I factored in the price of new tires for the Cannondale it was approaching a wash. Anyway, I love the bike. It comes right out of the box built for what I want to do and what I have available to me; mostly road with some opportunity to hit a dirt section from time to time. The shop was great and helped me get the geometry tweaked to a good baseline, I'm super comfortable on the bike. Anyway, awesome, happy n+1 day everyone.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Good work, fully support that purchase!

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Nice buy! Enjoy the ride.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Cheers, boys. I wanted to get out this morning but it’s so damn humid right now. It’s supposed to drop 20 degrees overnight so I’m planning on getting up early and doing a nice loop before work.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Congrat's on the new bike LB! It sounds like it should be perfect for the riding that you want to do. Glad that you got to test ride some different bikes and find one that fit you and your budget, plus give some business to a local bike shop.

    On the TDF Yamahas, your guess was better than mine Bubba. https://www.letour.fr/en/news/2019/w...wheels/1276061

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Thoughts on this seat pack? I just went full retard on the bike purchase and I'm trying to make myself not go full retard on the Wahoo Element bundle until I can at least prove to myself I'm going to stick with this thing. What I want to do regardless is get some baseline data from Map My Fitness or Strava that shows my route, avg speed, elevation change and whatnot. I can do that on my phone, but I don't want to handlebar mount it as I am a sweaty bastard. I also don't want to risk dropping a new iPhone, or any other nasty things that could happen. So, enter the above tail bag; waterproof, somewhat rigid, could fit a small tool kit and spare tube probably, it's $20. Buy it now or is there something mo-better?

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Thoughts on this seat pack? I just went full retard on the bike purchase and I'm trying to make myself not go full retard on the Wahoo Element bundle until I can at least prove to myself I'm going to stick with this thing. What I want to do regardless is get some baseline data from Map My Fitness or Strava that shows my route, avg speed, elevation change and whatnot. I can do that on my phone, but I don't want to handlebar mount it as I am a sweaty bastard. I also don't want to risk dropping a new iPhone, or any other nasty things that could happen. So, enter the above tail bag; waterproof, somewhat rigid, could fit a small tool kit and spare tube probably, it's $20. Buy it now or is there something mo-better?
    I just bought that exact same bundle (check amazon, I was able to find it there 50 bucks cheaper) and I couldnít be happier. Took me a little while to get used to it because the set up itself is done through your smartphone app and it downloads to/from the computer via the BT connection. What I think is cool is that letís say I set up a screen with some data but then realized I forgot to add a field to my view, I whip out the phone, make the change through the app, and the change occurs immediately (no need to restart the computer).

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I have bags like that on all three of my bikes. Absolutely the way to go. I think this is the one I use. Only problem is fitting a plus sized phone. Normal sized phone would be fine, the plus is a bitch to wedge in there.

    I usually carry a multi-tool, a tube, an inflator and two cylinders, a plastic tire lever, a candy-bar and my garage remote.

    For a while I was using a handle-bar mount for the phone. Nice, especially if following a route. But I had it break off on a road ride and sent a phone tumbling at ~18 MPH. Phone was fine.. somehow. That would have been an expensive mistake though.

    I have another friend that uses something like this. Also cheap. Also does as intended.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Thoughts on this seat pack? I just went full retard on the bike purchase and I'm trying to make myself not go full retard on the Wahoo Element bundle until I can at least prove to myself I'm going to stick with this thing. What I want to do regardless is get some baseline data from Map My Fitness or Strava that shows my route, avg speed, elevation change and whatnot. I can do that on my phone, but I don't want to handlebar mount it as I am a sweaty bastard. I also don't want to risk dropping a new iPhone, or any other nasty things that could happen. So, enter the above tail bag; waterproof, somewhat rigid, could fit a small tool kit and spare tube probably, it's $20. Buy it now or is there something mo-better?
    Pick your flavor of seat bags, they all do the same thing. The specialized systems (and their mini tools) are pretty innovative and nice, but you'll need to go to LBS to get them. I personally don't recommend putting your phone/wallet in the seat bag but don't have a great reason for that. A cycling jersey has pockets in the perfect share for that. However, whatever floats your boat is good. Before you get a cycling computer, just got for a quad lock or something similar to hold your phone. Strava app will do more than enough for now.

    Here's a starter kit for the rest. I personally use c02 because I run tubeless everywhere and need it to potentially set a bead and because I can fit it in my seat bike leaving more room in my pockets; on the flipside a pump is more reliable and will free up seat-bag space. Recommendations for both are below.

    https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Innov...n%2C217&sr=1-1
    https://www.amazon.com/CRANKBROTHERs...1-1&th=1&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/Lezyne-Road-D...-20&th=1&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/Q-Tube-700c-P...1-2-spons&th=1
    https://www.amazon.com/Pedros-Bicycl...g%2C220&sr=1-1

    Specialized recommendations:
    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/em...=233546-156734 (I love this tool and just lost mine - it has an 8mm hex which is a common size for crankset that a lot of tools don't have)
    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ro...=276820-156509 (will need specialized seat)
    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/se...=233103-156650 (this is medium, seems like large will hold wallet and phone)

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Cool. What I liked about the one I linked is you install a clip on the rails of the bike seat and the bag slips onto that, supposedly making it non-floppy. I think that's a good thing but it may not matter too much. I just have an Xs so I don't have a plus size phone to worry about.
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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I always put my phone in my center Jersey pocket so I don't have to get a big tail bag. It's easy to take pictures on the ride that way too.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Cool. What I liked about the one I linked is you install a clip on the rails of the bike seat and the bag slips onto that, supposedly making it non-floppy. I think that's a good thing but it may not matter too much. I just have an Xs so I don't have a plus size phone to worry about.
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    Okay. I had one with that sort of clip setup once. Wound up in the trash. I had a saddle where the rails were not spaced or were angled such that the clip bracket wouldn't keep.. or vice versa. It turned into a thing.
    I'm a bigger fan of the type with a soft loop that velcros over the seat rails. Mo-bettah. Works with anything. YMMV here I suppose. But yeah.
    This flop thing you speak of is worrying too much.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Okay. I had one with that sort of clip setup once. Wound up in the trash. I had a saddle where the rails were not spaced or were angled such that the clip bracket wouldn't keep.. or vice versa. It turned into a thing.
    I'm a bigger fan of the type with a soft loop that velcros over the seat rails. Mo-bettah. Works with anything. YMMV here I suppose. But yeah.
    This flop thing you speak of is worrying too much.
    I got the Velcro straps you speak of tight to the saddle. No wiggle at all and when I need something out of it I just loosen one of the Velcro straps and there's no interference between the zipper path and the saddle.

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    I'm not sure if any of you are following it this year, but the tour has been ridiculously good this year - so far.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Even on (relatively) short rides I’m having some weird discomfort. I get tingling in feet and hands and my seat is miserable. I don’t remember being so uncomfortable years ago when I rode more regularly. Is this something that will go away with time? I don’t think a new seat would hurt but how does one go about finding what works without throwing away a bunch of money on saddles you don’t like or maybe getting lucky and loving the first one?



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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    ergon has a size calculator for their stuff. I'd recommend using their mtb version, if you get one, it has a little more padding than the road.

    wtb does too, although I've never used their calculator. however, I've had great luck with the rocket on several bikes, both off and on road.
    https://www.wtb.com/pages/fitright

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    LBS had a few selle saddles that he let me try out. I'd say try a few if you can.

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