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Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    this is what Colin meant to link, I think: Salsa Timberjack NX1 27.5+ Bike - 2018 at REI
    edit: both links bring me to the same vigilink crap.
    they also seem to carry a canon dale Cujo thats spec'd the same except it has a Shimano drivetrain.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Just picked one of these up to strip. Impressed with the build overall. Air sprung fork, 1x11, hydraulic discs and a tubeless ready wheelset. I got a medium and they only had a couple left. Sometimes if you call and pay over the phone and ask they can discount previous years a good amount (hint hint).
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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    this is what Colin meant to link, I think: Salsa Timberjack NX1 27.5+ Bike - 2018 at REI
    edit: both links bring me to the same vigilink crap.
    they also seem to carry a canon dale Cujo thats spec'd the same except it has a Shimano drivetrain.
    Should I give a fuck about NX1 or GX1 groupset?

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Not really. What you should give a fuck about is the difference in the forks on the two tj’s.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    That orbea Bryan posted is the same build spec as the better of the two rei timber jacks.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Also there’s this:
    dragonslayer27sport
    If you can find one, it’s got a real decent spec too, on par with the gx timberjack, but the jamis has a steel frame and better wheels.
    And steel, as everyone knows, is real.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Nice part to check is the bottom bracket. There are multiple options out there right now, each claiming to be the newest and best. I’ve found that traditional English threaded bottom bracket shell that can accept a “normal” threaded external bearing bottom bracket have less chance of developing an annoying squeak, and easily changed. I would’ve picked up a dragonslayer because, well, steel. But the orbea checked off all the boxes as well for me. It also comes with real tubeless ready wheels. Take the tubes out, put in the included valve stems, pour in some sealant and inflate.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    yes, with all the BB standards out there, the regular threaded version with external bearings is better than any press fit version to date.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    yes, with all the BB standards out there, the regular threaded version with external bearings is better than any press fit version to date.
    1000x yes. They aren't as bad on aluminum bikes but press fit bearings/cubs in carbon frames is bogus. There was a cheap, old Santa Cruz Blur LT in size XL on pinkbike but it was listed quite a while ago so it may not be around any longer. Up in NH 2008 Santa Cruz Blur LT For Sale

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimedog View Post
    1000x yes. They aren't as bad on aluminum bikes but press fit bearings/cubs in carbon frames is bogus. There was a cheap, old Santa Cruz Blur LT in size XL on pinkbike but it was listed quite a while ago so it may not be around any longer. Up in NH 2008 Santa Cruz Blur LT For Sale
    Maybe I've been lucky. I change the press fit BB30 bearings just about every year on my road bikes, by hand without special tools, and haven't had an issue. I also find squeaks are very commonly coming from the pedal, and if its coming from the bottom bracket, a simple removal of the crank and a quick wipe will fix it. Or its a good sign that your bearings are toast.

    I do like the ease of the threaded BB, until they seize in there. Something that shouldn't happen, but when it does it could be the end of the bike.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Correct. It shouldn’t happen. Grease that ish.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Very interesting....I've searched exhaustively for anything that can beat the Timberjack NX1 +/- a few hundred bucks. I can't. Chipper has been fielding about 700 text messages from me and probably half an hour on the phone listening to my stupid accent talk about crap I have no idea about, so thanks for that. Every option/permutation I throw at him he looks at it and give me the "this is nice, that is not" assessment....and after that's all said and done....it's probably going to be a TJ NX1. I don't know why I've spent so much time and energy trying to find something that is not the Salsa. I've looked at the Spec Fuse Base/Sport/Comp models, several offerings from Kona, Trek Roscoe 7/8, searched for deals on previous model bikes, and even asked Chip if I should ride a single speed rigid. So it looks like Salsa it will be. There's a dealer up near where I play hockey in Attleboro, I'm going to swing by this evening before I skate and have a look see.

    Chipper, I owe you a few beers.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    He did pretty much the same for me. Dude coaxed me into buying my first track bike, well, pushed me over the edge anyway. Something tells me he could drink for free for a while.

    Kona was the brand I couldn't think of. I think they make something just like the Salsa. Or close enough for my dumb ass.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    If there is one thing to learn from this thread: Chip will always push you to the right bike. I will always push you to Specialized.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    I’m a helpapotamus.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Geez. Prices have gone up a lot.

    Looked up an entry level Cannondale hard tail like I have...2 grand.

    MSRP on the one I have was $800. That's a ridiculous jump.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    K, went to Union Cycle in Attleboro, didnít have what I want in stock. 2018ís arenít out yet and Salsa doesnít tell anyone when theyíre shipping until a week or so before, their rep told them within the next few weeks. So I rode an XL frame hard tail Salsa 29er with the NX1 group set to get an idea of what the frame/geometry felt like, itís the same frame as the Timberjack. Then I rode a Specialized Fuse 27.5+ to get an idea what the rubber would feel like. Like all, theyíre going to call me when the 2018 Salsas are in and Iíll order an NX1.


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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Salsa is also selling off their previous model year stuff at this point. It can’t hurt to look into finding a place that has last years and will ship it cheap. I was going to mention that their availability is their weak point (but it shows that they’re in demand). Fritz’s in Worcester goes through a lot of salsa models. They may be worth a phone call or email.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by JettaJayGLS View Post
    If there is one thing to learn from this thread: Chip will always push you to the right bike. I will always push you to Specialized.
    I would like to state for the record that I insisted several times that if he wasn’t really super sure that he was going to love cycling, that he should just go down the street and by the cheap fuse they had on the floor.
    I’m generally not a fan of the brand, and even more disdainful of the cult, but there’s totally something to be said for the local, available, inexpensive option. In this case, that just happened to be a specialized, but my sentiments stands regardless of brand.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I would like to state for the record that I insisted several times that if he wasn’t really super sure that he was going to love cycling, that he should just go down the street and by the cheap fuse they had on the floor.
    I’m generally not a fan of the brand, and even more disdainful of the cult, but there’s totally something to be said for the local, available, inexpensive option. In this case, that just happened to be a specialized, but my sentiments stands regardless of brand.
    I have no ill will against you for it. Just like cars and motorcycles, distaste and taste for brands will always keep it interesting and the conversation dynamic! If everyone liked the same thing it'd be so boring.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Now I'm thinking about doing something silly.

    When this idea of me riding a bicycle again started, my goal was to increase my fitness and have some fun. I'm only going to increase my fitness if my frequency of use is high. I have about a 7 mile commute to work, stretch to around 8 if I take entirely back roads. I just found out that a bike like this exists! It's really cool in a practical dad-like sort of way. Anyone rode one of these? Any of you fell like telling me to shut up and buy the mountain bike already?

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Shut up and buy the mountain bike already.

    I commuted to work on a roadie a couple times. My commute is 4 miles longer each way than yours. It's a really good time, but I find myself limited which days I can do it because of other obligations surrounding work.

    You could get a second set of tires for the mountain bike and just switch them over. Honestly mountain biking is way more fun than roadie stuff though, so I'd still stick with buying the mountain whip.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Now I'm thinking about doing something silly.

    When this idea of me riding a bicycle again started, my goal was to increase my fitness and have some fun. I'm only going to increase my fitness if my frequency of use is high. I have about a 7 mile commute to work, stretch to around 8 if I take entirely back roads. I just found out that a bike like this exists! It's really cool in a practical dad-like sort of way. Anyone rode one of these? Any of you fell like telling me to shut up and buy the mountain bike already?
    They're everywhere in Boston. Before I moved to the hood, just about every parent in Brookline took their kids to school on one. I have no experience. They look heavy, which may make the 7-8 mile commute a bit more daunting than it needs to be. If you can budget 45 minutes to get to work on a bike, that one will do just great! The kiddo will love it.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Now I'm thinking about doing something silly.

    When this idea of me riding a bicycle again started, my goal was to increase my fitness and have some fun. I'm only going to increase my fitness if my frequency of use is high. I have about a 7 mile commute to work, stretch to around 8 if I take entirely back roads. I just found out that a bike like this exists! It's really cool in a practical dad-like sort of way. Anyone rode one of these? Any of you fell like telling me to shut up and buy the mountain bike already?
    You’ve just opened the door.
    What do you need to carry to work? Kid?
    If you need one bike to do everything, something along the lines of a Fargo might check all the boxes.
    There are increasing numbers of tires becoming available that roll reasonably well on the pavement, with bigger side lugs for cornering off-road. The Fargo also takes every wheel size short of fat, so yeah.
    There are increasing numbers of bikes in this segment that do absolutely everything too, not just the salsa.

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    Re: Official non-motorized motorcycle thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    You’ve just opened the door.
    What do you need to carry to work? Kid?
    Lets play this game! Kid, kid's backpack, my lunchbox. Change of clothes for me? I dunno, there's a shower at work if I want to use it.

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