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    Palmer race track

    I can report that the proposed race track construction is indeed now underway. Clearing has begun.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Motorsports_Park

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    Re: Palmer race track

    why is this off topic?

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    Re: Palmer race track

    No bikes allowed.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by gregp View Post
    No bikes allowed.
    then why do we care?

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    Re: Palmer race track

    I attended a Town meeting about this track. At that time, maybe 4 years ago(?), the proprietor had an interesting sell: No bikes, ever!, No spectators, No "Races". Only private clubs, for practice and "tuning"...

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Palmer Ma?! no bikes allowed wtf is that shit about?! apparently they dont like $$$

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    then why do we care?
    Because I suspect that most tracks start off this way. Then, as things change, and time goes by, bikes may indeed show up there... And some bike guys are also car guys.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    So besides the degenerates who ride them what's wrong with bikes? noise?

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    Palmer Ma?! no bikes allowed wtf is that shit about?! apparently they dont like $$$
    Yes - Palmer, MA. There is also a proposed MX track in Warren, MA, about 3 miles from this track.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    They don't want us motorcycle riffraff at their exclusive private racetrack. Well fuck them, fuck them right in the ear.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by pontifex View Post
    So besides the degenerates who ride them what's wrong with bikes? noise?
    This is an interesting question. From what I saw at the meeting, people were highly opposed to any track that supported motorcycles, but many folks seemed to have starry eyes and dreams of NASCAR in their heads when speaking about cars...

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Cool, maybe I'll be able to rip the Miata there.


    From a safety/insurance standpoint, I'm willing to bet motorcycles cost more to a track than most cars....but I could be wrong.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    It's the mentality that bikes bring racing.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    And NYST was sold to the community as being bikes only and now based on what I've seen on facebook locals are upset they are allowing cars...I don't get it

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    I blame all the idiot stunters and squids for giving sportbike riders a bad rep... people get an idea in their heads and thats it they dont wanna budge.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    I blame all the idiot stunters and squids for giving sportbike riders a bad rep... people get an idea in their heads and thats it they dont wanna budge.
    Ya because before stunters people society loved motorcycles

    Come on man they were always associated with danger, rebel, drugs, etc. it's a joke but it's the truth.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    I take Prilosec sometimes, that count as motorcycle and drugs?

    I'm such a badass biker, even my heart burns.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    I blame all the idiot stunters and squids for giving sportbike riders a bad rep... people get an idea in their heads and thats it they dont wanna budge.
    I agree! Keep the squids and stunters on the streets, we don't need them clogging up the track

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    Re: Palmer race track

    psst Its really the site of the new Mohegan backed Casino and Far eastern housing complex

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    The article I read said they planned on having vintage car racing. Racing is racing. They will build it so its completely unfavorable to bikes anyway. It will be northern lime rock.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    They will build it so its completely unfavorable to bikes anyway. It will be northern lime rock.
    I had several long email conversations with the developer/owner trying to get them to build it motorcycle friendly from the start... even if they don't want us at first.

    I explained how much cheaper it is to make motorcycle friendly from the beginning - rather than trying to make it safer later with tons of airfence. And how you never know what the public will "tolerate" down the road, blah, blah, blah.

    Did they listen? We'll see... but I'm not too hopeful. I have visions of an armco (or tree) lined circuit.

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by TTD View Post
    I had several long email conversations with the developer/owner trying to get them to build it motorcycle friendly from the start... even if they don't want us at first.

    I explained how much cheaper it is to make motorcycle friendly from the beginning - rather than trying to make it safer later with tons of airfence. And how you never know what the public will "tolerate" down the road, blah, blah, blah.

    Did they listen? We'll see... but I'm not too hopeful. I have visions of an armco (or tree) lined circuit.
    If they have hundreds of acres to spare, and no concerns with spectating areas, why should "safe for motorcycles" be any different from "great for cars exclusively"? I wouldn't think the people with rare Porsches and Ferraris would be any more anxious to slam them into a tree, wall, or pond than we are with our bikes and bodies.

    ....unless they're all gonna drive like a bunch of pussies

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    Re: Palmer race track

    yeah, I made that argument too (how safe for bikes means less damage to cars).

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Ya know Tony, it might be good business to find out if any decision makers over there would be interested in a free track day at NYST with TTD next season...just to help them discover for themselves that people who do motorcycle track days around here aren't all goons (or whatever element they feel the need to exclude, at the expense of lost profit). Maybe it is the insurance issue, or maybe it is that they think the town wouldn't like bikes, or maybe it wouldn't feel "exclusive" enough to the collector car crowd they are trying to attract as members if bikes were allowed...but besides one of those, or some other legit reason, what kind of backwards business plan starts off with the idea of excluding some of those who might want to pay you?

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    Re: Palmer race track

    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    .but besides one of those, or some other legit reason, what kind of backwards business plan starts off with the idea of excluding some of those who might want to pay you?
    yeah... as I mentioned there were several long emails I won't go into too much.

    it came down to a combination of stereotypes and bike-ism, for lack of a better word. On part of the town mostly, but I got the impression it was also on part of the potential car members... really not much different than we faced at Monticello.

    And I did invite them to attend one of our days to see just how mellow they are.... and will again now that the project seems to have legs again.

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