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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist


    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Nah, that's stolen. Report it.

    Keep a copy of his text, show it to the cops. He just admitted to it being sold and not sending you the money. Aka, theft.
    Quote Originally Posted by gumby View Post
    Hence your signature on the title was forged...a felony offense. Contact your attorney...NOW!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonk! View Post
    Personally, I wouldn't dick around with him. Feels like when someone hits your car and wants to "work something out and not go through insurance". Rarely worth it. He took your car, (presumably) forged your name on the title and flat out stole from you. There should be consequences IMO.
    I'd chase him to the ends of the earth for about a week. If I wasn't paid in full, I'd fully explore each & every legal avenue. You're going to lose out anyway, I'd put the fuckin' screws to this asshole. I wouldn't trust him anymore than I would a beer fart. And I would plaster his name every place I could unless I got my money or car in short order.

    Personally, I wouldn't trust anyone like this dick. But then I'm not the one that's been talking to him. I wouldn't give him much leeway either way.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    Well at this point I'm going to throw in my completely worthless $0.02, pretty much the same as every other post so far

    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    So, what should i do other than nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    Ha. Just got a text from the consignment dealership owner after posting this morning. He saw this post since he rides sportsbikes......Since he is reading this I wont say much more other than I have been trying to track him for months with no luck but 1 posting on the web about filing a stolen car report got his attention.
    NICE, less than 24HRs & already made some serious progress, good idea keeping details to yourself for now

    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    He has a day to work it out.....He seems to really want to work this out now that he has been found. He is making contact so that shows me something. He could have just not said anything after reading this and I never would have found him.
    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    I'm not taking it lightly but I am trying to be practical about it. Car is gone and not coming back, money is gone but I may get some back. I was furious about 2 weeks in if trying to find him, time has worn me down to acceptance stage.
    Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    So a deal is being worked on. We are working the final value of the car but I will be getting my out of pocket expenses paid by the end of this week which is just over 10k. The rest will be decided on and be installment plans
    While this may be a bit premature! Good luck, hope he follows thru and this works out in your favor best as possible at this point

    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    I had a safe stolen that contained all my current important documents like titles, deeds, tax stuff etc. This car was the least of concerns at the time .
    DAM DUDE!!


    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Let the judge give him a chance to make it right. Not you.
    yeah, how's that been working out for Bergs??? (no offense Bergs, you choose the legal/correct route for your situation) If the current plan works out B.Lebaron could have 50%+ of his $$$ back in short order

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Sold without a title because it was being parted out? That's a load of crap. There is a VIN and ownership being transferred, hence the requirement of the title being signed (and/ or BoS depending on age of the vehicle).
    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    Who parts out a $20K car that (presumably) runs and drives and is worth more and is easier to sell?
    Aaahhhhh, cause criminals.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I suppose illegal chop shops don't give a shit
    first logical thing you've posted this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    This. Federal matters investigated by the FBI include, inter alia, Interstate Transportation of Stolen Motor Vehicle as well as Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property (if the car was already parted). I have to assume that, since it was a dealership, other vehicle owners had their cars taken too. Remember, this guy took the time/effort/money to get your car (as well as other cars) down to FL. That's not what businesses do when they go belly up in CT. I respectfully suggest that's what people do who are engaged in some kind of criminal activity. This might just become a blip on the CT and FL FBI's to-do list. At the very least, I'd contact local law enforcement as well as the State Police. See what you can learn.
    MIGHT become a BLIP No disrespect to law enforcement but the case of an individual car, on consignment, with title, for a year & missing for at least 3 months before being reported would be so much less than a BLIP to the FBI i'm at a loss for an adjective to describe how small this case would be on their list.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    Anyone else wonder how many other cars this guy sold out from under the owners?

    That number might make it a lot more interesting to law enforcement.

    If you decided to go that direction, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    yeah, how's that been working out for Bergs??? (no offense Bergs, you choose the legal/correct route for your situation)
    My situation was (is) considered a civil matter in the eyes of the Mass DA....which amazes me to this day but it is what it is.

    The difference with this situation is that physical property was taken and has not been returned by the alleged consignment dealer, a signature has potentially been forged and the dollar amount is quite a bit more than mine when accounting for this one vehicle (never mind the unknown values and quantities of the other vehicles).

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    This thread is fucking wild man.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    so, i got $5k back as of last night so its a start. i will get more by the end of this week. It is being deposited into my account in person by him at my bank into an account i created just for this so i have all the details without anything like a trip to Burger King to mess it up. The final figure to be paid to me has been agreed which is less than i was asking for the car but its still a very nice profit. Its doubtful the car ever would have sold for the asking price anyway.

    To add another twist to the deal the guy he sold it to has not even fully paid him so he is going to try to get it back. Supposedly its all in one piece still, or at least driving. If he gets it back i will take it back and consider the debt paid. This will be on top of the money he has already given me.

    i am making good progress i think and i am looking to just be out of pocket my time trying to track him down, any money gained wasnt worth the agro however. I am fairly certain if i had filed the stolen car report and gone to court i would have zero at this point. No money and no car. I am lucky this is turning out to be in my favor. He is trying to avoid going to court/ jail. He has a young daughter that he would lose custody of if this went down. That, i believe, is the only reason i have had some good luck with this.
    I suspect he did this with others since he had a bunch of similar type cars on consignment when i gave him my car. As much as i feel bad for those and know i might be able to help them if I went to the police I am only concerned about myself at this point. Sorry other people.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    *big inhale through nose*

    Ahhh, America... Where anyone can buy their freedom as long as they have the cash.

    I love a happy ending where the criminal with a daughter walks free.



    I'm genuinely glad this *SEEMS* to be working out in your favor, but this guy is a fucking shady piece of shit for doing what he did.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    I honestly hope it all works out for you. Frankly, I doubt it.

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    Amazing. At this point in time the criminal is robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    Amazing. At this point in time the criminal is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
    Hey hey hey... leave me and my uncle outta this.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    I love a happy ending where the criminal with a daughter walks free.
    He’s basically Nicholas Cage in Gone in 60 Seconds, except with a daughter not a brother.

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Hey hey hey... leave me and my uncle outta this.
    *my uncle and me

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    I and you got beef

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    Accessory after the fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boosten lebaron View Post
    so, i got $5k back as of last night so its a start. i will get more by the end of this week. It is being deposited into my account in person by him at my bank into an account i created just for this so i have all the details without anything like a trip to Burger King to mess it up. The final figure to be paid to me has been agreed which is less than i was asking for the car but its still a very nice profit. Its doubtful the car ever would have sold for the asking price anyway.

    To add another twist to the deal the guy he sold it to has not even fully paid him so he is going to try to get it back. Supposedly its all in one piece still, or at least driving. If he gets it back i will take it back and consider the debt paid. This will be on top of the money he has already given me.

    i am making good progress i think and i am looking to just be out of pocket my time trying to track him down, any money gained wasnt worth the agro however. I am fairly certain if i had filed the stolen car report and gone to court i would have zero at this point. No money and no car. I am lucky this is turning out to be in my favor. He is trying to avoid going to court/ jail. He has a young daughter that he would lose custody of if this went down. That, i believe, is the only reason i have had some good luck with this.
    I suspect he did this with others since he had a bunch of similar type cars on consignment when i gave him my car. As much as i feel bad for those and know i might be able to help them if I went to the police I am only concerned about myself at this point. Sorry other people.

    Riddle me this Batman

    Why is HE trying to get back YOUR unpaid for car? That as far as you know never sold? Should YOU be getting YOUR car?

    Or it sold but you were never paid, so stolen.

    So you're waiting for the thief to get money from the sale of the stolen car to reimburse you for the theft?

    Or alternatively you're waiting for the thief to get back your stolen property for the third party so he can return it to you?



    Just for everybody's personal amusement, the money he's paying you if it's from profits of yours or other stolen property isn't going to be actually yours legally even if he pays you. You're not profiting from original contract of the sale of your car. You're profiting from thiefs profits from illegal sales of yours and other properties and the owners are legally entitled for that money once he invevitably does go to jail and the ball unravels.


    I'm just here for the shitshow.


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    My god, I'm just realizing now. You're trying to profit from a criminal by black mailing/extorting him ON TOP of getting your car back? Now that you know it exists and you even know who the owner is, CALL THE POLICE AND GET IT BACK. The car isn't owned by the new owner. It's owned by you and is legally stolen.

    Don't deal with the criminal.
    Don't take money from him.
    You're entitled to get your car back.
    You're becoming an accessory and will have legal reprecautions yourself.

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    The ultimate irony in all of this, is if he actually does become an accessory (to the theft of his own car!), then the criminal will actually have leverage/blackmail back over him.

    You were innocent in the start, but now that you know more information you're dealing with a criminal knowing that your car exists and you are extorting money out of him instead of going after your property immediately and directly.

    You can't outcriminal a criminal without becoming a criminal yourself.

    Good luck.

    Some lawyer is going to have a field day with this.

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    Re: How to go about reporting a stolen car with a twist

    This sums up the words I am otherwise searching for with this latest update -->

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    Riddle me this Batman

    Why is HE trying to get back YOUR unpaid for car? That as far as you know never sold? Should YOU be getting YOUR car?

    Or it sold but you were never paid, so stolen.

    So you're waiting for the thief to get money from the sale of the stolen car to reimburse you for the theft?

    Or alternatively you're waiting for the thief to get back your stolen property for the third party so he can return it to you?



    Just for everybody's personal amusement, the money he's paying you if it's from profits of yours or other stolen property isn't going to be actually yours legally even if he pays you. You're not profiting from original contract of the sale of your car. You're profiting from thiefs profits from illegal sales of yours and other properties and the owners are legally entitled for that money once he invevitably does go to jail and the ball unravels.


    I'm just here for the shitshow.


    Edit:

    My god, I'm just realizing now. You're trying to profit from a criminal by black mailing/extorting him ON TOP of getting your car back? Now that you know it exists and you even know who the owner is, CALL THE POLICE AND GET IT BACK. The car isn't owned by the new owner. It's owned by you and is legally stolen.

    Don't deal with the criminal.
    Don't take money from him.
    You're entitled to get your car back.
    You're becoming an accessory and will have legal reprecautions yourself.
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    so maybe you get the car back but does he still have the title?...i'd be curious if it was written on

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    He still has the title and it has been written on by him. I would need to apply for a duplicate title i think if i got the car back.
    Im not counting on the car coming back but he did make the offer if he gets it back.
    Yes its a shit show. Im not worried about blackmail or anything like that. Give me my money and all is fine. Give me the car and some money and all is fine. Give me nothing and you probably go to jail. I could care less about the guy who bought the car. Its shady all around.

    I am all for punishing criminals but this is a lot of money to throw away and i am sure if i filed a report i would get squat out of it. At best my car would be seized and returned to me after they drove it into a wall. Remember, i have no insurance to claim for any of this and i doubt he has his business policy still, if he ever did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattR302 View Post
    He’s basically Nicholas Cage in Gone in 60 Seconds, except with a daughter not a brother.


    *my uncle and me
    Nope. Me and my uncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Nope. Me and my uncle.
    I don't know of any rule that dictates the order of compound subjects. But I agree my uncle and me is awkward.

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    I think the two correct ways are:
    Me and my uncle
    My uncle and I

    Yes/No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    I think the two correct ways are:
    Me and my uncle
    My uncle and I

    Yes/No?
    You're correct, but you break down the sentence to just 1st person and use that form.

    "Leave ME out of this" is what you would say if it was just you, so it becomes "me and my uncle".

    If it were "I would like to be left out of this", it would become "My Uncle and I would like to be left out of this"

    It would never be "My Uncle and me"

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