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    School me on boats...... Power boats


    Yes I know.. a boat is a hole in the water you throw $$ and then more $$ into it

    I know boats per say. I sail and know the ins and outs of that but powerboats are a total unknown to me

    i saw this post on CL the other day by accident
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    1989 Fly Bridge Cruisers Inc. 3380
    746 hrs. on the two Crusader 454 engines.
    Seem about 40% into its life before its rebuild and its about 2grandish per engine? mayeb per 2, to rebuild

    Long story short I think I want a boat like this, I like the look of it

    Take it fishing for stripers ( IDK where.. in deep water say boston harbor with all the other wackos chasing the schoolies and keeprs)
    Anchor it off a beach (like wingersheek beach or such) ( IDK the draft of this particular boat)
    Take it to the vineyard or provincetown for the weekend
    Let the family enjoy it and jump into the water.



    Thoughts? I know nothing of power boats other than I may want something I can get into and get out of w/o losing a ton of money in depreciation after a year or two ( think ex500 or sv650 of racing)

    I"d get a wetslip and try to take it out every other weekend make it a lifestyle\
    Thoughts? any direction for a family friendly boat for saltwater ( no desire to do freshwater and say lake winnepasuakee)

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    I grew up in the midwest so not sure if there's this option but my father did a boat-share. He said the cost to dock it was the same price as the entire summer boat share and it equated to an average of two days a week (which you have to schedule your time, main downside). After a summer of doing it, he decided he never wanted to own a boat. Maybe you can try something like that before you dive-in.

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    i have been a fresh water boater for years. Salt is hard on engines and the boat itself. but i am sure you know that. Taking care of two engines has always been the hard sell for me and why I have not moved up to a larger boat! love boating hate how much it costs to maintain and store the thing! nice looking rides. good luck

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    my son's boat sunk last Thursday, torn bellows, completely underwater, tied to the dock

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    I’ve worked on boats almost my entire adult life, and garamdman has plenty of nautical experience as well.
    I don’t own a boat, so take that as a sign. But if I were to, it would be a small center console, 16-20ft that would be easy to trailer, maintain, clean, and zip around on.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    garamdman has plenty of nautical experience as well.
    I think he posted an in-depth post about buying an older boat. Can't remember where.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    If powerboats are an unknown, run and run fast....

    We used to own a cruisers of similar vintage, smaller with a single BBC (that I rebuilt into a {real good} BBC)...now have a sailboat (36'). We spend as much time cruising as we can, and it's a priority for us.

    You have nowhere near enough $$ in your estimate.... ;-) Summer storage, winter storage, hauling, covering, oh yeah basic maintenance (you will loose time if you do it yourself, and even more $ if you pay someone)...and you haven't even used the boat yet...Most expensive trip to the fuel dock was $600 in Nantucket, with a single engine...and used half that to get home, let alone getting there...yadda yadda

    Don't get me wrong...we love it, but it costs.

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    When I see monster bbc my mind wanders in a wholly different direction.
    Yeehaw.

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    Pictures of the 36' sailboat

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Pictures of the monster BBC!
    Waitwut?

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    2005 Catalina 36 - lots of them around...good boats.

    School me on boats...... Power boats-img_0013-jpg

    I googled monster BBC, yikes! going to edit that post....

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Clearly what he needs is a front wheel drive sedan with snow tires.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    They say the second-happiest day of a person’s life is the day they buy their boat.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Similar to chipper’s advice, for ocean use 21-23’ Center Console is tough to beat. Most of the price of those boats is in the engine(s).

    We have a 21” RIB but that’s not for everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattR302 View Post
    They say the second-happiest day of a person’s life is the day they buy their boat.
    Unless you have teenagers that will have nothing to do with you - unless you are out in the boat. Then you learn what you are doing to manage your costs.

    Set a budget, stick to budget. Like any other activity, going out and buying something that seems like a bargain is going to wind up costing more.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Mike View Post
    Pictures of the monster BBC!
    Waitwut?
    This owner owns an insurance company in the UK.



    How big is it really? It’s so shiny that (even after a transatlantic crossing) you can see our [21’] boat reflected.


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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    I may want something I can get into and get out of w/o losing a ton of money in depreciation after a year or two ( think ex500 or sv650 of racing)
    The ex500 of the high seas:

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Sunfish forever!

    This was our previous powerboat, a Robalo 2120. The hull was one of Ray Hunt’s original deep V hull designs. We paid $7,000 with trailer. We bought a new 200hp Yamaha fuel injected 2 stroke for about $6,000. The dodger adds a month to the season. We used it for almost 10 years and sold it for $5,800. We averaged 4.6 gph of gas, and total use was 346 hours. So adding it all up it cost $30-35 per hour.

    Our RibCraft has a 4 stroke and uses half the fuel.


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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Similar to chipper’s advice, for ocean use 21-23’ Center Console is tough to beat. Most of the price of those boats is in the engine(s).

    We have a 21” RIB but that’s not for everyone.

    Unless you have teenagers that will have nothing to do with you - unless you are out in the boat. Then you learn what you are doing to manage your costs.

    Set a budget, stick to budget. Like any other activity, going out and buying something that seems like a bargain is going to wind up costing more.
    MAN, you sure do LOVE your acronyms....

    WTF does RIB stand for?

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    Rigid Inflatable Boat.

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    Re: School me on boats...... Power boats

    Got the bug last summer and bought a 2001 Silverton 330SB. I'll admit we use it mainly as a water front condo (or on water condo) + the weekly cruise around the bay to drop anchor and hang out. Had a survey done and included an old friend who was Harbormaster many years, boater since a kid, etc. Survey found cyl head problems and a local mechanic had all 4 heads rebuilt before we bought it. As others said salt water and air is a hostile environment. You ride a bike so you probably are mechanically oriented. That is good because everyone in the boat world seems to move slowly. The good mechanics are busy and backed up, so if you want to keep on going you learn to do things yourself. Finding out about things like impellers and raw water vs fresh water cooling. Fresh water = think closed cooling system like a car, but instead of air going around a radiator sea water / raw water goes around a heat exchanger. Never spent so much time looking at oil and temp gauges when running an ICE powered vehicle. Ended up mounting my own radar and GPS as the techs were so backed up, even in April. Of course covid added to that problem. I have 3 good friends who work at a high end boat/shipyard. Only 1 of them has a boat and that seems to be common. Long story short we are enjoying it, but the most active boaters at our marina are the small center console and bow rider folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrocket21 View Post
    WTF does RIB stand for?
    I wonder if that's one of those things you've heard a bunch out loud but never realized was an acronym? People will pronounce like the word, not spelling out each letter. "We'll take the rib to shore".

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    yup and you can spend huge money on a RIB. Some of those yacht tenders have dual engines and a couple hundred gallon fuel tank all surrounded by a hard bottom and inflated tubes.

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    RIB or more generically/commonly heard where I grew up was Zodiac

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    and with Covid there was another thing you couldn't buy this year RIB. Used ones turned over in a day. West Marine and Defender out of stock.

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