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Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

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    Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?


    I searched and the only threads that come up seem to be related to welding equipment.

    I want to buy a simple, hand held, trigger light propane torch.

    - Want the propane cannisters to be easily available and swappable.
    - Intended use: need it to burn hot enough to loosen any frozen bolts, frozen locks, etc.
    - Need it to be small and portable that using it is not a production.

    I was doing a blind search on amazon and came across something like this:

    Amazon.com : Worthington 310184 WT3401 Pro Grade Trigger Start Propane Torch (Discontinued by Manufacturer) : Home & Kitchen

    Would that be good enough? Any other suggestions please?

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    I would go with something map gas related. Propane is ok but doesnt burn hot enough imo. A nice benzomatic trigger gun can do both. Ive had mine for years and years and ive never complained.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    I got a nice map gas torch with a trigger from lowes for about $50....should fill the bill.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    This thing on Home Depot and you're done. Don't bother with propane, it doesn't get hot enough to unstick frozen New England fasteners.

    You can save a few bucks by getting the simple torch head that requires you to light it manually with a flint, but they suck when it's windy out.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    Thanks all for the tip on map pro versus propane, I had no idea.

    Number 9, thanks for the link. Supposedly, the TS8000 is an upgraded version of the TS4000 you linked to. Picking that up at my local home depot today, thanks!

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    MAP gas, little yellow bottles, only way to go, propane doesn't get very hot

    MAP gas costs more, but you use less, a bottle goes so much further, it's cheaper in the end

    I just replaced mine, left my old one out in weather $38 at HD for the torch head only, Kit is $46, so you get a $12 bottle of gas for $8

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    And the MAPP Pro stuff in yellow bottles sucks compared to real MAP if you can still find it.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    Yeah... You can't get MAP anymore...

    Oxy acetylene or bust. Propane wouldn't touch stubborn bolts in my experience. Only way I was able to do anything was with the oxy acetylene.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    In early 2008, true MAPP gas production ended in North America when production was discontinued at the only remaining plant in North America that still manufactured it. However, many current products labeled "MAPP" are, in fact, MAPP substitutes. These versions are composed almost entirely of propylene with minuscule impurities of propane (<0.5%).[1]
    MAPP gas - Wikipedia

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    So you guys are telling me I can't get MAP for the MAP torch I just bought?!

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    Correct, what you got is MAP Pro, which is NOT the same as ye olde MAP gas in that it doesn't burn as hot as the old good stuff.

    "The effective BTU output is a measurement of the quantity of BTUs that actually go into the work piece when heated", said Paul Minter, VP / General Manager, TurboTorch."Our lab tests have revealed that MAP//PRO has approximately a 10% greater BTU output over Propane and a 14% less effective BTU output than MAPP. "

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    Acetylene

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    So you guys are telling me I can't get MAP for the MAP torch I just bought?
    They're saying you can get something most people call 'MAP' that comes in a yellow bottle, but it isn't the real deal. However, what you bought will connect up to any common small-type propane or yellow bottle of MAPP substitute.

    I have a torch just like that, and a yellow bottle of post-2008 MAPP. It'll get the job done in most cases, especially for the occasional DIY'er. There's only one time I can think of that acetylene saved me. It was on an ancient O2 sensor with a rusted hex that I'd already started to round and looked like the body was going to break off the mounting threads even if I managed to get something to grip.

    A torch like that is handy, portable, and easy to find replacement fuel.

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    Re: Need a simple hand-held, high temp propane torch. Which one to get?

    There is a little acetylene knee high on a hose no Oxygen that real plumbers use.

    For a time I had a little oxy-acetylene rig knee high and you good just cut stuff up

    40 years ago there were many choices for propane that no longer exist. There was a bernzomatic with about a 3/4 inch nozzle that was very good



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