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    Re: Snow tires....


    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    ya, big difference between metro suburbia and northern New England where half the driving is on frozen hardpack snow on gravel roads, during storms hidden under the depth of snow, nothing works like a studded Hakk in those conditions

    used to be safer in storms than it is now, everyone had winter tires, that all went to hell with the advent of all season radials, more than ever, ya hafta watch out for the other guy, even if you got the best tires, the other guy doesn't

    I have never been one to think laws are good, but I think we should follow the lead of Quebec
    Yep, and around here if the weathers bad enough they donít want you out on the road anyway by the next day itís all cleared up and mostly slush.


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    Re: Snow tires....

    I am considering 235/75R15 Mickey thompson deegan 38 all terrain tires. But I can’t find any rating for how they are in snow.

    I’m assuming they still should be significantly better than 31”x10.5 mud tires in the snow... but don’t know if they will be good enough in snow to pull the trigger?

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    Turns out I canít get that size for four weeks and donít want to wait that long. I can get it in a 30Ē size... which is just a little better than the 31Ē tires I have, and is the stock size for the Sport trim, with better tread than the midgets... but I always heard the thinner the tire the better for winter, and these are 9.5Ē wide.

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    If anyone come across any Mazda 3 rims for sale please let me know

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Turns out I can’t get that size for four weeks and don’t want to wait that long. I can get it in a 30” size... which is just a little better than the 31” tires I have, and is the stock size for the Sport trim, with better tread than the midgets... but I always heard the thinner the tire the better for winter, and these are 9.5” wide.
    Skinnier and larger OD is better for the most part.

    Skinnier tire allows weight to be more focused and increases force to push tire down past the snow to the road.

    Larger OD allows for more time for the pressure to work. Although at a certain point a larger OD will lead to an increased surface contact area which will decrease the pressure too much as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    If anyone come across any Mazda 3 rims for sale please let me know
    I have a set of sport edition aluminum rims in good shape with 205/55/16 snow tires mounted on them with lots of tread left (8/32). They should work fine on a mazda 3. PM me if you are interested, i can send some pictures tonight.

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Luckily for me this year..... My all season are on the verg eof wear bars. Should time nicely to mount some michelin X-ices n the A4 to my stock 17" rims

    Then I'll be on the lookout for some new 18 or 19" rims for my "Summer" tires. If anyone has some for an a4 5 x 112 offset around 40 not too garish, which is all I can find on CL / FB

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    hmmmm......

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Luckily for me this year..... My all season are on the verg eof wear bars. Should time nicely to mount some michelin X-ices n the A4 to my stock 17" rims

    Then I'll be on the lookout for some new 18 or 19" rims for my "Summer" tires. If anyone has some for an a4 5 x 112 offset around 40 not too garish, which is all I can find on CL / FB
    Ping me in the spring. I have an A4 wagon that has 18" VW Austin wheels (with Chinese made Audi center caps) mounted in the summer and the factory 16's with snows. There is a decent chance we'll be trading it in after the winter, in which case I would definitely sell off the 18's.

    I bought them from typeone 4 - OEM VW 18" Austin wheels + Pirelli tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Ping me in the spring. I have an A4 wagon that has 18" VW Austin wheels (with Chinese made Audi center caps) mounted in the summer and the factory 16's with snows. There is a decent chance we'll be trading it in after the winter, in which case I would definitely sell off the 18's.

    I bought them from typeone 4 - OEM VW 18" Austin wheels + Pirelli tires
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    Re: Snow tires....

    IF you guys are looking for tires, discount tire is offering a decent promotion through at least their ebay ads of $100 off tires over $400. And their base pricing is pretty good to start. I just got Hankook ATMs for the Tundra for $550.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshk1025 View Post
    I have a set of sport edition aluminum rims in good shape with 205/55/16 snow tires mounted on them with lots of tread left (8/32). They should work fine on a mazda 3. PM me if you are interested, i can send some pictures tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Skinnier and larger OD is better for the most part.

    Skinnier tire allows weight to be more focused and increases force to push tire down past the snow to the road.

    Larger OD allows for more time for the pressure to work. Although at a certain point a larger OD will lead to an increased surface contact area which will decrease the pressure too much as well.
    I’ve done narrower track and do not recommend it. You lose too much dry and wet road handling while modern winter tires will give you plenty of grip.

    Punched out a number of sidewalls in the standard 45 WRX aspect ratio so a -1 on rim size will give you more sidewall and more protection.

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    Jalopnik just published this. Happen to be the same sizes as the WRX: my 16’s are 205/55r16. 17’s are 225/45r17.

    How Different Wheel Sizes Affects Winter Tire Performance

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    Still on the hunt
    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    If anyone come across any Mazda 3 rims for sale please let me know

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Jalopnik just published this. Happen to be the same sizes as the WRX: my 16’s are 205/55r16. 17’s are 225/45r17.

    How Different Wheel Sizes Affects Winter Tire Performance
    I'm surprised in how small the differences are. All the measured distance tests are within 1 meter of each other and all the timed events (save for the dry lap time) are within a second of each other.

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    Re: Snow tires....

    As much as I hate to see the winter & snow coming, I'm looking forward to some fun driving this year. Just switched the summers over to this new 18s combination.

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    Be careful with the TSW wheels. I had a set for winters that got devastated in a short time. I don't know how to prevent it, but be prepared.

    Nice looking set up, btw.

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    This is what I ran into with 45 aspect winter tires. Since moved to 16” rims with 55 aspect tires. I punched out to WRG2 front tires once, and a single one another time, and many AWD cars have such a tight spec for rolling diameter I had to replace two instead of one. Sidewalls are generally not covered by road hazard warranties.


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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    Be careful with the TSW wheels. I had a set for winters that got devastated in a short time. I don't know how to prevent it, but be prepared.

    Nice looking set up, btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    Be careful with the TSW wheels. I had a set for winters that got devastated in a short time. I don't know how to prevent it, but be prepared.
    Yeah I did some research and these are supposed to be okay - specifically a winter wheel. I had limited options when filtering for these so I'm hoping to have good luck. Might be the difference between powder coated and not I guess. Plus I'm a bit of a fanatic about washing my car during the winter. And if do they look like hell in a few years I'll probably be tired of the car by then anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX-12R View Post
    I'm surprised in how small the differences are. All the measured distance tests are within 1 meter of each other and all the timed events (save for the dry lap time) are within a second of each other.
    I’m also surprised. To the point I’m questioning how legit this really was.

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    Apparently I made a mistake when I bought a winter wheel & tire set from tire rack last year; I got alloy rims with some clear finish on them. They're already corroding under the clear coat after only one winter. Tire rack said they would replace the rims under warranty but the cost of mounting/dismounting the tires and the shipping costs were on me. All of their current rims are significantly more expensive than what I bought so when I looked at how much it was going to cost me to replace what I have I said screw it, they're just winter wheels so I'll live with them as is.

    I know someone else who had this same problem years ago. I wish I remembered to avoid the clear coat finish before I ordered this set.

    Bottom line is beware of any clear coat on alloy rims for winter tires.

    Here's what one of my rims look like after just one winter:

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom M View Post
    Apparently I made a mistake when I bought a winter wheel & tire set from tire rack last year; I got alloy rims with some clear finish on them. They're already corroding under the clear coat after only one winter. Tire rack said they would replace the rims under warranty but the cost of mounting/dismounting the tires and the shipping costs were on me. All of their current rims are significantly more expensive than what I bought so when I looked at how much it was going to cost me to replace what I have I said screw it, they're just winter wheels so I'll live with them as is.

    I know someone else who had this same problem years ago. I wish I remembered to avoid the clear coat finish before I ordered this set.

    Bottom line is beware of any clear coat on alloy rims for winter tires.

    Here's what one of my rims look like after just one winter:

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    Plasti Dip them after removing the loose flaking clear coat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Have you used that on anything? I assume that is more for bare metal?

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    Re: Snow tires....

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    Plasti Dip them after removing the loose flaking clear coat.
    I've never used Plasti-Dip. Is it a good durable coating for winter wheels?

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