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    Lexus GX 470

    Wife and I want a 3rd car ( weekend duty, camping, long road trips... overlander potential offroader for moderate trails)

    Found one ( 2008) up in North Hampton NH.

    (Anyone there care to take a look for me? will recipricate with beer, scotch or amazon gift card for all you can eat Sugarless Haribo Gummy Bear Reviews On Amazon Are The Most Insane Thing You'll Read Today

    Either way.. any pluses or minuses on the Lexus?
    Its the same platform for the 4 runner, but is more refined, power everything, has AWD and a V8 engine

    This particular one does not have the KDSS which I get conflicting reports on, great but not for off road to , not so great off road expensive to replace

    We pushed the 4 runner out as to find a 100k 4runner base model ( non limited) it was around 11500 but this Lexus is 15k with a long history of Toyota dealership maintenance

    To get a similar 4 runner in the limited trim i'd be at 13k more or less with a less refined ride, less tech

    The lexus also has, summer and winter rims with new tires and the timing belt/ water pump done only 5 months ago.

    Talk me out of this.... if possible

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    You really want a Land Cruiser

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    KDSS is a lot like the XREAS systems that were found on the Gen 4 4R's. Garbage.

    IMO, you are better off not having that option as it adds complexity to something that can otherwise work just fine using a more traditional suspension design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    You really want a Land Cruiser
    I would but what i find price wise vs mileage wise vs frame quality makes a for very very slim to none pickings

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    KDSS is a lot like the XREAS systems that were found on the Gen 4 4R's. Garbage.

    IMO, you are better off not having that option as it adds complexity to something that can otherwise work just fine using a more traditional suspension design.
    I'm tending to agree with you. what I likes about my Xterra was its "low tech" torsion bars, leafs packs

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    Re: Talk me out of a ....

    They are really good cars, and when i was at Lexus owners of those did not want to give them up. Only thing i remember shitting the bed was the suspension especially the bags in the rear. So that point you either get it fixed with new lexus parts and not worry about it for another 100k or go the aftermarket route and get an old man emu lift kit.

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    The 4.7 is the older V8 engine. Nothing wrong with it, but I think it has a belt, not a chain, but definitely not 100% on that.

    As for Lexus, we bought a low mileage '07 recently (IS250, which is completely different car) and it has been nothing but awesome for us. I know Lexus shares a lot of the same components across the platforms in the tune of electronics and such, so I'm led to believe these are pretty reliable vehicles.

    As for having a third car, we also have a third vehicle as we kept my wife's SUV when we got the Lexus. She now drives the Lexus all the time and we kept the Armada as the family/baseball vehicle. It's nice having that extra room when traveling. And it's really nice having a third car should one need to go in for service. But we have a Toyota, Lexus, and Nissan. So I haven't had to send one in for maintenance (yeah, jinxed myself). And when my son turns 16, he gets the Lexus or the Armada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    I'm tending to agree with you. what I likes about my Xterra was its "low tech" torsion bars, leafs packs
    I dumped the XREAS on my 4R soon after I sorted out some maintenance items. Like Mr Hawley, I too would recommend the OME lift.

    I installed a 3" lift on my 4R with whatever their softest springs were because I wasn't adding things like bumpers, winch, etc. and found even those springs to be a touch on the stiff side. Not excessively harsh but certainly noticeable. Knowing your desire for overland, I'd guess you have in the neighborhood of 400lbs or so for add ons before the need to step up in spring......again, IMO.

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    That's easy... come buy a Tahoe from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    That's easy... come buy a Tahoe from me
    add, specs?

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    Hereís a link of the car pics

    470 - Album on Imgur

    Exterior and interior 8/10
    Drives solid great accelletatiln no KDSS
    But the rust. Mostly surface corner welds but ..... that rad support looks iffy
    There pets where there was flaming all around but I also didnít poke with a screwdriver or hit with a hammer

    Thoughts?want it to last 10ish years at least

    How to treat it is another thread, wheel, pur 15 or fluid film or even bedline the bottom ,
    Ideally iíd Outsource that.

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    That's really not terrible on the rust aspect. Looks mostly to be surface only, and easily slowed significantly by an undercoater. If you kept up with it, shouldn't be too much of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    add, specs?
    Wallingford - New Tahoe Vehicles for Sale

    That's what I've got in stock at the moment for new Tahoes. I can get anything you want, new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Lexus GX 470

    Wife and I want a 3rd car ( weekend duty, camping, long road trips... overlander potential offroader for moderate trails)

    Found one ( 2008) up in North Hampton NH.

    We pushed the 4 runner out as to find a 100k 4runner base model ( non limited) it was around 11500 but this Lexus is 15k with a long history of Toyota dealership maintenance
    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    Wallingford - New Tahoe Vehicles for Sale
    (cheapest car in link: New 2019 Chevrolet Tahoe 4WD LT Sale Price $53,248)

    That's what I've got in stock at the moment for new Tahoes. I can get anything you want, new.
    Car salesmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    Car salesmen
    What do you think new full sized SUVs cost?

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