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    From before I was born 1947 until 1978 my family had a summer house in Bethel Vermont

    I say this because this had us driving from NYC to Vermont once or twice a year. Early memories is that almost all of that trip had us passing by fields and pasture land almost NO forests. Then the feds ended milk price support payments and regulations about bulk refrigeration of milk. Almost all family dairy farms went out of business and the fields and pasture land went fallow. If you notice almost all New English trees are 60 years old or younger. Back then also deer were pests and there were proportionately more predators. Insects were crop eating pests which should be eliminated mostly by DDT. DDT was eliminated as one of the first eco events (note not controlled, eliminated).

    So now we have a few insect carried illnesses. Lymes, triple E , 3 other tick. Saving Eagles is already estimated to have contributed to the deaths of over 20 million sub Saharan Africans from insect born disease.

    No politician and even most citizens don't have the PC courage to even suggest any action.

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    Spent the morning clearing a shitload of brush spilling onto the cleared part of my property. We have super thick vegetation/woodland surrounding 2/3 of our house, and we have deer. Haven't found a tick on me yet today but now I'm almost afraid to look. This thread scares me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojobreakfast View Post
    Spent the morning clearing a shitload of brush spilling onto the cleared part of my property. We have super thick vegetation/woodland surrounding 2/3 of our house, and we have deer. Haven't found a tick on me yet today but now I'm almost afraid to look. This thread scares me.
    Seriously. I'm never going outside again. Lyme was some sort of boogeyman, not something that could actually happen...

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    Allegedly it is the tiny deer tick that carries all the disease

    They are so small digging through your skin to the blood meat is a huge excavation like you digging a 12 foot deep hole

    They won't transmit disease until they are into the blood bearing tissue under the skin

    So the idea is a good shower scrub will wash them off while they are still just starting out
    before they dig deep enough to hide out

    So do your chores with a good deet spray then come in put your clothes in the washer and you in a shower

    within 2 hours of exposure

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    I did those steps yesterday after being on and off the tractor most of the day. Pulled a tick off my neck a couple hours after my shower and subsequent fresh clothes...my guess is he hung out on my boots until I put them back on

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    Sorry to hear of those having had to endure Lyme disease. I wish a speedy recovery to anyone currently enduring symptoms and de-tox.

    Thanks for all of the useful information. Now, I'm going to take a hot shower and creepily look at myself, more closely than I'd like, in the mirror.

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    What's next, Five Weird Tricks To Avoid Getting Lyme Disease?

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    This forum poster read about ticks, and you won't believe what happens next! (He used Rotella to treat himself for self-diagnosed lyme disease.)

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    My dog got Lyme this summer. I was amazed at the debilitating effects it can have on K9's. Granted, they recover quickly and Doxy doesn't have nearly the negative side effects it does on humans. But she was practically paralyzed for a coupla weeks while we waited for the Doxy to take full effect. I literally had to carry her up & down the stairs for about a week. We even took the top off her crate so I could place her in it at night. Went a record FIVE days without so much as eating & went from 65 pounds to barely 50. It was devastating...

    Not to veer far off course here, but there's a lot left to be desired about over-the-counter flea & tick medicine. Next time your vet tells you it's not the same, listen to them. This all happened using over-the-counter (read: discount) K9 Advantix II...

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    Jay, FWIW I've been switching between Advantix and Frontline with decent results. Not saying it's the be all end all but it's something.

    Still trying to figure something out for the dog...


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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Jay, FWIW I've been switching between Advantix and Frontline with decent results. Not saying it's the be all end all but it's something.

    Still trying to figure something out for the dog...


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    Went hiking w/ Jackie & her pup last weekend... glad I gave her (the dog) a good look-over & a bath afterwards. Found 3 or 4 little bastards crawling around on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Jay, FWIW I've been switching between Advantix and Frontline with decent results. Not saying it's the be all end all but it's something.

    Still trying to figure something out for the dog...

    I had an employee once that wore a Hartz Flea & Tick collar, only person I ever fired

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    I had an employee once that wore a Hartz Flea & Tick collar, only person I ever fired

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    I had an employee once that wore a Hartz Flea & Tick collar, only poodle I ever fired
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    Bring back ddt ban Rachel Carson and her friends

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    Re: Tick bites and Lyme disease

    I was feeling kinda crappy the past couple months, different symptoms from past, and my specialist still diagnosed it as lyme. Been on the meds for 10 days now and can't believe how much better I feel.

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    Damn, that sucks. Glad to hear you got the right diagnosis & you're on the mend.

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    It sounds like she saw an asshole. Like every other field, the medical profession has some too. It's also possible the doctor she was speaking with had at least a mild understanding of the Lyme controversy, had an opinion on it, but did not want to debate it with a patient who has a 'File from Hell' and a bunch of articles, intertwined with a deep bias.

    I'm not sure what to believe right now. But I don't think patients should drive what doctors believe. The medical community should. And they are divided. Perhaps if anything, the discussion needs to be how to handle evolving issues regarding syndromes and other poorly understood or disputed issues. People should not demand that a doctor change their believes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    It sounds like she saw an asshole. .
    no, she saw a doctor that espouses typical CDC party line about Lyme, I have run into this personally myself, doctors are afraid to not follow CDC protocol and insurance companies use CDC protocol to deny benefits

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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    I was feeling kinda crappy the past couple months, different symptoms from past, and my specialist still diagnosed it as lyme. Been on the meds for 10 days now and can't believe how much better I feel.
    My thought is to ensure your Dr understands what post-Lyme is and what treatments are being practiced. As can be read in this thread, almost all of my symptoms started to come back roughly a year later. More blood tests showed that I was Lyme free however, as I came to know, the human body does not have a way to eliminate the dead spirochete and further treatment is necessary.

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