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    Re: Toyota or Nissan?


    i think the Ram with the fuel saving Hemi gets like 14/18 so im guessing that the Tundra and Titan get about the same. i have heard that yota is still working out some bugs on the Tundra and my dad (who is also shopping) said that with all the rebates and incentives the Titan is only like $20k.

    if MPGs is all your concerned about then a V6 Taco,Frontier,Dakota is what you need.

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    MPG isn't all I am concerned about. i kinda wonder if I can get comparable MPG from a fullsize (that is the only reason I would go fullsize)

    I like midsize and am leaning towards imports rather than domestic.

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    Re: Toyota or Nissan?

    Doc I am on my second Tacoma Double cab. I got an 03 that I found with low miles. I dont like the size of the 05+ Tacos so I looked for an 01-04. It drives like a car and has plenty of room (as long as you dont carry a lot of tools and stuff, then you would need a box, not much room in the back of the rear seats.)

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    Re: Toyota or Nissan?

    Standard operating procedure for Nissan is to turn the rotors everytime they replace the brakes.

    I don't think you can go wrong with either Toyota or Nissan. I've had pretty good experinces at nissan dealers. I got new F + R rotors and brakes installed for free and they are always nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punjistick View Post
    Standard operating procedure for Nissan is to turn the rotors everytime they replace the brakes.

    Why?! Give me a better explanation than the service writer... I have NEVER had to turn rotors unless they were warped, scored or pitted. I just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Why?!
    It's all about the Benjamins!

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    It's all about the Benjamins!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Why?! Give me a better explanation than the service writer... I have NEVER had to turn rotors unless they were warped, scored or pitted. I just don't get it.
    The idea is that its a preventative measure. Small imperfections in your rotor get bigger over time, and warp sooner. Turning the rotors gets rid of the imperfections and prolongs the life of the rotor. (At least thats what they taught in me in service writer school when I was in college, who fuckin knows if it makes any difference.)

    Get a Toyota. As you'll soon find out when you try to trade that Nissan in, the Toyotas hold their value better, and have historically held up better.

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    I replaced my rotors at 75k when I changed my pads. Turning rotors costs about $20 a piece and brand new rotors was about $30 each. Seems pretty easy to me.

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    I was always told you could only turn rotors twice and then you had to replace them. New Rotors only cost $30? I thought they were more... I would be happy to replace my rotors at 75k. They wanted to turn mine when they replaced the brake pads at 20k.

    I have never heard of "preventively" turning rotors. Is this a new thing? Or something they just teach service writers so they can pad their commision?

    Turning was more like $300 with the labor they wanted to charge.

    I ended up getting it done for free when I found a service bulletin that my service department "wasn't aware of".

    I still don't agree with the Preventative measure crap. Any other companies do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post

    I have never heard of "preventively" turning rotors. Is this a new thing? Or something they just teach service writers so they can pad their commision?

    Turning was more like $300 with the labor they wanted to charge.
    Its very possibly just a silly add-on to make more money. All the mechanics ever did was run a DA sander over the fuckin rotors anyway. If you only hvae 30k or so on the rotors, its probably worth doing to get more life out of them. Personally, I always just change the rotors when I do brake pads anyway. (And here's a scary thought - I have the rotors turned when they are brand new, it makes them last longer. )

    I had a Nissan Altima back in 2000, and I remember the rotors costing an arm and a leg for that as well. Maybe Nissan parts are just overpriced?

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    I guess I just come from the old school ( I can actually replace my own rotors ) and don't see the point. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"

    I also have not heard of this "turning new rotors". I can understand how a "clean" surface would work "better" but I don't see the need if there is nothing wrong with the surface to begin with.

    I guess Nissan does that "light turning" which is not as much as a REAL turning but still... just seems stupid.

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    I guess I just come from the old school ( I can actually replace my own rotors ) and don't see the point. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"

    I also have not heard of this "turning new rotors". I can understand how a "clean" surface would work "better" but I don't see the need if there is nothing wrong with the surface to begin with.

    I guess Nissan does that "light turning" which is not as much as a REAL turning but still... just seems stupid.
    If you have new rotors lightly turned, they will seat with the pads better. Stupid old trick I learned racing cars, which probably makes no difference on a pickup truck. Old habits die hard.

    Just trade the stupid thing in, you'll get new brakes with the new truck.

    I suggest you get a Ford diesel. Get a used one though, its the first year for the new 6.4 liter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsider View Post
    I suggest you get a Ford diesel. Get a used one though, its the first year for the new 6.4 liter.
    thats what tried telling him a few posts ago. get a slightly used diesel for thousands of list with a warrenty. better mpg plus you can pull your house off the foundation with the new ford,chevy,dodge diesels.

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    I hate the smell of diesel.

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    WTF do you do to that thing to need brake pads at 20k??????

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    I hate the smell of diesel.

    Come drive my truck. If you smell diesel even once, I owe you a beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    WTF do you do to that thing to need brake pads at 20k??????
    I thought the same thing!

    Tow a trailer... Go 4 wheeling...

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    I thought the same thing!

    Tow a trailer... Go 4 wheeling...

    I wheel a shitload more than you do and I tow TONS.

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    Wait, is it an automatic?

    If so, nevermind.

    I hear minivans are good.

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    Re: Toyota or Nissan?

    you arent going to find a fullsize that is comparable to a mid size or even a mini-truck.(MPGs)

    Yota hold their value quite well.
    Nissans have a good history
    Dodge has an unlimited lifetime powertrain warranty...i think you are gonna start seeing alot of chrystler products on the road.

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    I hate the smell of diesel.
    run bio diesel than you can smell tacos all day!!!

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    Why?! Give me a better explanation than the service writer... I have NEVER had to turn rotors unless they were warped, scored or pitted. I just don't get it.
    Hey I didn't say I agree with it, just that's what they do. A) probably to make more money and B) could be the lawyers making them do it for added safety? New pads would mate better with a fresh surface that isn't all grooved? I have no idea though....

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    With normal wear the surface shouldn't be all grooved.

    If it IS grooved I would agree with resurfacing.

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