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Tractors - Educate me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    What sort of stump would you say is too large for your setup?
    Why do you say that about trenching? What is the limit?
    I don't touch anything larger than 10 inch diameter



    It's simply not worth the time, effort or hassle for me to fight the extraction. I have successfully extracted stumps up to 2' in diameter however the hardwoods in particular are incredibly challenging so it comes down to a personal/ business decision to not go after the bigger stumps until something like a mini ex shows up.


    As far as trenching, again it comes down to time. A few years ago I had a customer asking for drainage from his garage and down the side of his driveway.....around 280'. A decent length but nothing insane. He insisted that I go 3' deep, add 3/4" stone and he also insisted on using "donkey dick" (that black corrugated perforated pipe) on what should have been nothing more than a swale. So that was 3 feet deep by 280 feet long and it sucked horribly because of the "required" depth.....and it was the depth alone that stalled the entire job.

    I'll dig hundreds of feet no problem. I'm just a whole lot more selective when it comes down to those types of jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    that's what I've been doing for nearly 50 years. If I had a way to count em all, I've probably logged 50k test pits.

    Many times I have considered a TLB or more recently a small excavator. I have never had an issue justifying the machine itself, What kills it is the truck, trailer and insurance to get it to the site, So, I just hire someone, and add to bill as an expense. I get the client to pay direct if I can, I hate sending out 1099s
    time=money

    never mind a excavator can dig in a hr what it takes 3-4hrs to doo in a tractor.

    or a experienced excavator operator can dig in a hr what it takes ham and egger in a rental 3 hrs to doo.

    its hard to beat the right set of skills with the correct tool for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    The economic decision of backhoe (or grapple or snow thrower or stump chipper or wood chipper or mower or grader) or no depends upon your land. What is perfect for owner A might be of little utility for owner B.

    Establish your task list, then decide what you need. And note that you can add implements whenever you want: for example you can pay a few hundred dollars per end for the hydraulic controls required to run a grapple or a backhoe: but you donít have to buy them then.

    We had three projects that could use a digger.

    #1 was a trench for the generator. We installed it on the other side of the garage so we wouldnít hear it. I quickly determined there were several rocks too big to move with the BH77 (Backhoe for a Kubota L3200). We hired a contractor with an excavator. He was done in 45 minutes.

    #2 was a shed. Our place is on the W slope of Mt Sunapee so we donít have a lot of level ground and there are lots of trees.

    This is what the contractor used to clear stumps and level the ground for a shed.



    Once heíd dug out the stumps, I tried to pick them up with my tractor, which will lift roughly 1,400 lbs and can curl 2,400 lbs. I literally could not budge them. The backhoe on an L3200 would likely have taken a long time, if it could do it at all. Think the cost was $800.

    Project #3 is a French drain behind the house. Itís the one project that is well suited for a CUT backhoe: as long as we donít run into any of those monster boulders. In that case. A Ditch Witch could probably do it faster and cheaper.

    Last weekend we changed from ballast box to mower to chipper. Probably wouldnít happen with a backhoe.
    looks like a cat 311

    its about the perfect size and is probably my favorite tool for taking trees down.

    depending on how close the french drain needs to be to the house its hard to beat a zero turn excavator where the boom swivels.

    you can easily dig parallel to the foundation and swing without hitting the house.

    everything you listed is good to have other than the stump grinder. there expensive, a bit of a pia and don't work well.

    i had one for a few years and was very happy to see it leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    If you are near Sunapee youíre welcome to come try this one.

    We use them (close together) to lever rocks out of trails, back yard, etc. This one particular rock was egg-shaped, buried in dirt maybe three feet - a good 4-500 pounder.

    Think I must have rocked the tractor forward and back to get the tines down, and that worked it back and forth at the lower attachment until it broke.

    This is what we have.


    Didnít want a set too big and heavy as that would decrease the load capacity. The compromise is these forks are only 1Ē thick by 3Ē wide by 42Ē long rated for 1,800 lbs. Standard forks are usually 4Ē wide and many of them are 1.5Ē thick.

    Ordering a new pair and that way Iíll have three available, which could come in handy. Very happy with the unit otherwise, after six years and many tons of rocks and logs this isnít shocking.
    ha, i bent mine doing the same thing around 15 years ago.

    mine are the thicker ones

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    I want a Menzi Muck excavator

    https://menziusa.com/menzi-muck/


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    ha, i bent mine doing the same thing around 15 years ago.

    mine are the thicker ones
    They've changed the product. They are now 80mm x 30mm (3.15x1.15) so are stronger. They're only about $100 each but shipping is brutal.

    It turns out they are a standard ITA Class 2 - 16" between attachments. So scouting around to find some.

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    Posted on FB. Comments are great:

    I wish my Jeep would do that
    Regen in progress
    Chapdelaine makin customers return
    I wish that would happen to my mahindra..

    Josh Forrest never say that out loud. Lol
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    The 420cc Kawasaki on our brush mower has this fuel pump (branded Mikuni). Mower would start with Ether but not keep running so this was the culprit. $21 delivered off eBay. Turns out to be very widely used on John Deere and other small tractors, mowers etc.

    Clever design. The bottom port is hooked to the crankcase. Inside there’s a rubber diaphragm and a one-way valve. As the crankcase pressure changes from + to - on each stroke, fuel is drawn in through the valve, then pushed out the other port.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Posted on FB. Comments are great:
    Looks like a Blake Shelton video.

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    Will KTAC cover that?!

    HD had a BX for rent outside the store I visited today. It’s tiny.
    I no longer have interest in a BX. B2301 please.

    They want $319/day for rental. The skid loader next to it? $319/day.
    I don’t get it.

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    There’s a very active L Series group on FaceBook. Somebody posted this video. Ordered it from Messicks for $52 delivered. Really should be standard.


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    I'm currently having fun with scammers selling tractors. 1200 hour B2650 for $3500.

    Apparently I have to submit payment via E-Bay and then they ship it. It's against their contract if I look at it first!

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    I am blown away at the amount of fake and clearly scam ads there are for tractors. Makes motorcycle ads look tame.

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    There's been an uptick in scam ads lately for a lot of stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    There's been an uptick in scam ads lately for a lot of stuff
    Tractors, trucks, quads, boats, even fucking chainsaws

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    What about mail order brides? Some really attractive Russian women want to meet me.

    Need to kill som grass in the driveway. Any homemade potions work before we go nuclear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    What about mail order brides? Some really attractive Russian women want to meet me.

    Need to kill som grass in the driveway. Any homemade potions work before we go nuclear?
    Number of things will kill the grass, but few get down into the roots for long term. Sprinkle your driveway with baking soda and it'll keep the weeds at bay for a while.

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    Hey, there’s a 2008 John Deere “Diedel Trator” FS on FaceBook only $2,000.

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    Those are well made units but the lack of Diedel fuel and the cost to ship it in from Nigeria makes it prohibitively expensive.

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    Thereís a strut protecting the underside of the FEL arms secured by a hitch pin. Twice in the last year branches have pulled them loose, luckily without damage. Zip tied the open end.
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    Learn something new every day. The number on a Kubota loader is the lift capacity in KG at the pins at full height. So for example the LA524 will lift 1,153 lbs.

    Useful for comparisons but not necessarily the real world. 500mm forward of the pins it’s 880 lbs. At 1500mm height and 500mm forward it’s 1,180 lbs and breakout force at 500mm is 1,870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    What about mail order brides? Some really attractive Russian women want to meet me.

    Need to kill som grass in the driveway. Any homemade potions work before we go nuclear?
    Vinegar mixed with Dawn will work temporarily. I know handful of peeps around us that use it on the beaches to knock back weeds & swamp grass. I've never tried it myself and I've never really gauged how often they have to do it. But it seems like they hit it a handful of times from spring to late summer. Not sure of the mixing ratios, but I'm sure a quick Google search will yield you 8,423,958 recipes.

    Other that that, glyphosate is always my go to. I wouldn't use it on the shoreline though. But I used plenty of it in my driveways.

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    So I just pulled the trigger on a new Kioti CK3510SE open station with a backhoe. 0% for 84 months was too hard to pass up.

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    Top cover or completely open? What was your out the door if you don’t mind sharing?

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    Nice!

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