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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Given some of the terrain we need to clear, I'm wondering if some walk behind equipment might be a good or better choice.

    For example, there are some low areas near a brook we'd like to clear that are wet in the spring, so a tractor might be too heavy. Anyone use something like this DR brush mower? It's 16.5hp, has a pressure system to accomodate side slope (we got those, also).
    My uncle rolled one of these mowing the side of a hill at his place in vt 5 yrs ago. Unfortunately he went with and fell into the blades. If he hadn't managed to use his belt as a tourniquet and used his cell phone to call for help, he wouldn't have survived. He was taken by helicopter to the hospital in Dartmouth and was there for something like 10 days. He is very lucky to still have his arm and the use of his hand. He did have extensive nerve damage that still bothers him, and his dexterity and strength in that hand is nowhere near 100%.

    If it was me I would go with a tractor.

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    Kubota or John Deere... BUT, be sure to get a backhoe with a subframe mount. I have seen PTO/Drag Link mounted backhoes tear the top link mount off the rear end cases. The result is a $6K+ repair bill!!!! I own a 30 HP Kubota L2800 w/Standard Shift & Front Loader. Great workhorse, highly recommended.

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    Learned something yesterday. The smaller Mahindra's are built by TYM in Korea, the 3 series by Mitsubishi.

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    I had a chance to kick the tires on a Mahindra 3616 at the Lancaster, NH fair over the weekend (they were sold out of 3016s). The first thing I noticed is the backhoe looks tiny and while the mounting is to the frame and not the hitch, it feels a little flimsy. My frame of reference is a hoe on a 40HP L-series Kubota which uses 1/2" plate for mounting and is definitely larger overall. Sitting right next to the 3616 was a 3535 which looked a good deal heavier duty than the 16 series for not much more money. They are similar in size and the 3535 is 1500ish pounds heavier. They didn't have a hoe attached to it but they claimed the one used on the 35/3500-series tractors was larger.

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    Does anyone think the extra expense is worth it to step up to a cab tractor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX-12R View Post
    I had a chance to kick the tires on a Mahindra 3616 at the Lancaster, NH fair over the weekend (they were sold out of 3016s). The first thing I noticed is the backhoe looks tiny and while the mounting is to the frame and not the hitch, it feels a little flimsy. My frame of reference is a hoe on a 40HP L-series Kubota which uses 1/2" plate for mounting and is definitely larger overall. Sitting right next to the 3616 was a 3535 which looked a good deal heavier duty than the 16 series for not much more money. They are similar in size and the 3535 is 1500ish pounds heavier. They didn't have a hoe attached to it but they claimed the one used on the 35/3500-series tractors was larger.
    Can't get the 3535 in HST though which is a deal killer for most people in New England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Does anyone think the extra expense is worth it to step up to a cab tractor?
    it certainly is if your going to be snowblowing in winter

    also worthwhile working in woods where branches might poke ya in the eye

    for work out in the open, not so much unless its hotter than hell and you spring for AC as well

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    Yeah, it has AC....

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    My neighbor had a JD110 for about a year that had the full cab and did not like it for the most part. If you're buying a tractor strictly to plow snow, it may be worth it. Also anything smaller than a tractor comparable to the 110, a cab is very small and cramped, which will suck for going from driving, to backhoe use, not to mention cut way down on visibility for backhoe use. A canopy roof is a must though in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Does anyone think the extra expense is worth it to step up to a cab tractor?
    It's a $7K option on the Mahindra which makes it a fairly crappy value. The 3616 I saw at the fair had a cab and a hoe and there were 2 separate seats on it. There was no way to go between the 2 positions without completely getting off the tractor. For tractors this size, I would skip it. If you end up getting a snow blower, just dress appropriately for the conditions. I know you're a skier so you have the right gear to keep yourself warm.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Can't get the 3535 in HST though which is a deal killer for most people in New England.
    I've been looking at tractors now for several years and I'm still torn between the shuttle and hydro transmissions. I grew up with non-synchro gear transmissions so any of the modern ones are significantly better than what I had access to before. Since I'm not in your scenario of having a nice heavy old school tractor to supplement, I'd probably spend the money on a tractor in the size range of the Mahindra 4035 which besides the shuttle and HST transmission, it also adds a power shuttle option as well to make the buying decision that much harder.

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    I have a price of around $21500 for a Kubota L3200HST with loaded ag tires, front end loader with quick release, and extended warranty. The backhoe is another $8,500 roughly.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Does anyone think the extra expense is worth it to step up to a cab tractor?
    Another option is a 3rd party cab from Laurin, Curtis or Sims. Sims starts at around $2,500. Some say they are noisy compared to OEM. I plan to plug in my Gerbing....

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    A canopy roof is a must though in my opinion
    My co-workers say if you work in the woods they get knocked off. Mowing, etc, for sure.

    Anyone look at the Cabelas tractors?? They are made by TYM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I have a price of around $21500 for a Kubota L3200HST with loaded ag tires, front end loader with quick release, and extended warranty. The backhoe is another $8,500 roughly.

    Another option is a 3rd party cab from Laurin, Curtis or Sims. Sims starts at around $2,500. I plan to plug in my Gerbing....

    My co-workers say if you work in the woods they get knocked off. Mowing, etc, for sure.

    Anyone look at the Cabelas tractors?? They are made by TYM.

    Roughly how much for a brushog for the L3200?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Does anyone think the extra expense is worth it to step up to a cab tractor?
    depends what your dooing.

    i'd only get a factory cab and they doo a good job of keeping snow, dirt, dust & bugs off you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    Roughly how much for a brushog for the L3200?
    think it was $1,900. for a 60" Land Pride.

    We close on the place next week. Once I reconnoiter the land and what work I can do versus contract, I'll look at a unit. One dealer is suggesting to go big, while another is suggesting that a smaller model with a full suite of attachments is a better choice for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    think it was $1,900. for a 60" Land Pride.

    We close on the place next week. Once I reconnoiter the land and what work I can do versus contract, I'll look at a unit. One dealer is suggesting to go big, while another is suggesting that a smaller model with a full suite of attachments is a better choice for the money.
    if you get something twice as big as you really need it should work well for many years.

    as to attachments find them used. it may take quite a while but you will find them.


    fwiw: i have a 74" and a 54" rear mounted snow blower for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    54" rear mounted snow blower for sale.
    Go on.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    if you get something twice as big as you really need it should work well for many years.//
    [NESR MEME]I'll never use all the power.[/NESR MEME]

    The vast majority of people I know with modest-sized properties and no field use are using Kubota B series, most with less hp than any of the models I'm looking at.

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    Or, buy something that is a good compromise in size/power/ability/versatility and use it wisely.

    Might be something orange in my driveway Saturday.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I'll never use all the power.

    The vast majority of people I know with modest-sized properties and no field use are using Kubota B series, most with less hp than any of the models I'm looking at.
    Anyone can grab a 40hp TLB, move shit around and call themselves an operator.

    For me, I went with my 21hp B-series because I wanted to learn with it rather than jumping straight into an L-series (as I originally thought when I put this thread up). In the last year I have learned how to use what my B offers more effectively but with less power than what I originally thought was "necessary". Obviously I'm not picking up shed-sized boulders with it but so far it has done everything I have needed it to do within reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Go on.....
    http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/grd/4659654958.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I'll never use all the power.

    The vast majority of people I know with modest-sized properties and no field use are using Kubota B series, most with less hp than any of the models I'm looking at.
    ok

    although it has to dooooo with a lot more than power.

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    That's the manage URL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Anyone can grab a 40hp TLB, move shit around and call themselves an operator.

    For me, I went with my 21hp B-series because I wanted to learn with it rather than jumping straight into an L-series (as I originally thought when I put this thread up). In the last year I have learned how to use what my B offers more effectively but with less power than what I originally thought was "necessary". Obviously I'm not picking up shed-sized boulders with it but so far it has done everything I have needed it to do within reason.
    I've spoken with two different dealers (different brands) and they have a totally different perspective on what is best for my use for a particular budget.

    One suggest that a smaller-sized tractor with a bunch of implements will deliver maximum utility. The other suggests that it is better to get a heavier, more powerful tractor and purchase or borrow or rent implements as required. To make the matter more entertaining, base price-wise the L3200 HST ($17,290) is actually less expensive than the B3300SU ($18,704). Then there are the Kioti and Mahindra fans, and I've received one vote for a Massey Ferguson.

    It's all moot until we get on the property next week. The first thing I am going to do is to make a string trimmer path through the weeds down near the brook to see if that area is solid enough for tractor use. Then I'm going to walk around the property and take a look at what exists for trails or paths and decide if those are something I want to clear, and by how much. As far as I know right now, I'll mostly be clearing saplings and brush. We won't be plowing the driveway, although it could use some maintenance.

    I'm beginning to wonder if a UTV like a Polaris Ranger side-by-side or Kubota RTV, Kawasaki Mule or Deere Gator might be a more appropriate first choice. I'd like to sell my WRX before I spend a lot of any of these vehicles.

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