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    Welding school


    I'm taking a welding course at the local vo-tech. I always wanted to learn how to weld and have done a number of things with wood when steel would have been a better choice.

    Plus, fire, sparks, and melting stuff!

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    Re: Welding school

    good deal! i've been telling myself to learn this skill for years but havent pulled the trigger due to time. Monty Tech in Fitchburg has night classes, that's prob where i'd go.

    maybe this year is the year. i know i'd love it.

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    Re: Welding school

    Artisan Asylum in Somerville has several. It's on my list.

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    Re: Welding school

    Yeah. Local tech shops / maker spaces often have classes or at least provide safety training and as a member allow you to learn as you go.

    If you aren't good at Welding, you'll get good at grinding.

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    Re: Welding school

    I learned at tech school, but never used the skill until last year--20 years later. I found a youtube tutorial that was very helpful.

    Basic MIG Welding - YouTube

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    Re: Welding school

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    good deal! i've been telling myself to learn this skill for years but havent pulled the trigger due to time. Monty Tech in Fitchburg has night classes, that's prob where i'd go.

    maybe this year is the year. i know i'd love it.
    I didn't know they offered tech type classes at night. I'm going to look into that, thanks. I learned to weld (stick) years ago in metal shop in HS. I haven't kept up with it enough, but can splatter things together. I'd really like to learn MIG and eventually TIG.

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    Re: Welding school

    I did the same thing a few years back at New Bedford Voc. I ended up making some cool shit for my car, it was fun too.

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    It's a great skill to have. I've built and repaired a ton of stuff both at work and home in the 5 years since I learned. Last summer my friend (carpenter) and I collaborated on an 18 ft tall built in bookshelf and some kitchen shelving in a loft in JP. Pretty sweet.




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    That's a pretty cool use of space. I don't get the whole open kitchen concept but can appreciate the simplicity. And that looks really great. Are those concrete countertops?

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    Re: Welding school

    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    That's a pretty cool use of space. I don't get the whole open kitchen concept but can appreciate the simplicity. And that looks really great. Are those concrete countertops?
    The counter tops are actually granite. She wanted soap stone but availability didn't meet the deadline to finish the project. I'm also not a big fan of open shelving, it only really works if you have nice shit to fill your shelves. She also has a huge pantry and a lot of lower cabinets to out more unsightly items.


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    Re: Welding school

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Artisan Asylum in Somerville has several. It's on my list.
    I did their course a couple of years and, honestly, it wasn't great value. You spend most of the time learning how to cut and grind and do very basic metal work. It's several weeks before you get to stick metal together, and by then, the class is almost over.

    You'd be better off putting that money towards a welder and then bribing someone on NESR to come and show you the ropes. Someone experienced, in a 1:1 setting, can teach you what you need to know in an hour or two compared to the class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    I didn't know they offered tech type classes at night. I'm going to look into that, thanks. I learned to weld (stick) years ago in metal shop in HS. I haven't kept up with it enough, but can splatter things together. I'd really like to learn MIG and eventually TIG.
    The guy who teaches TIG at Artisan Asylum has a day job welding custom Titanium bike frames. Really amazing work.

    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    I did their course a couple of years and, honestly, it wasn't great value. You spend most of the time learning how to cut and grind and do very basic metal work. It's several weeks before you get to stick metal together, and by then, the class is almost over.

    You'd be better off putting that money towards a welder and then bribing someone on NESR to come and show you the ropes. Someone experienced, in a 1:1 setting, can teach you what you need to know in an hour or two compared to the class.
    I can see that. First thing I have to do is figure out what to get for a welder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I can see that. First thing I have to do is figure out what to get for a welder.
    I should say that this was their basic (MIG) metalworking class. I haven't taken the TIG class, but I've also heard it's really good.

    The instructor for my class ("Puppy") was great, but I should've started with something more advanced.

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    Re: Welding school

    We have been promised 90% shop time for the next 9 weeks

    I'll start on oxy acetylene then mig with both gas and flux core

    Others with more exp will do tig as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    If you aren't good at Welding, you'll get good at grinding.
    Very true!! I had an interest in learning to weld, but sucked out of the gate and didn't have the patience (there are 40 guys in my shop that can lay down welds varying from just passing inspection to artistic architectural quality, no need for me to bother!!)

    I have a ton of respect for guys that can make awesome welds with varying methods, positions and conditions. It's a serious skill. Here's a pic of a couple little fillets in our shop..
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    Re: Welding school

    I bought a Lincoln 180 dual for my auto shop. The thing is pretty sweet for a general use mig. I like the ability to adjust power and wire speed over a millermatic 130 or 40.
    That being said I need as much skill building as the next guy.

    My grinder is dyin' over here.

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    Does it run on 120V?

    We have a 24x24 garage in NH and the one thing the electrician didn't do was to run 220 to the garage.

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    Re: Welding school

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Does it run on 120V?

    We have a 24x24 garage in NH and the one thing the electrician didn't do was to run 220 to the garage.
    what type of service you have in the camp, an old 60amp fuse box ?

    my garage/barn is completely independent of my house, it cost me a little extra cause it has its own meter, but worth it to have a 200 amp service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Does it run on 120V?

    We have a 24x24 garage in NH and the one thing the electrician didn't do was to run 220 to the garage.
    You can actually remedy this quite easily. I assume what the electrician did was just pull a single 120 volt 20 amp circuit in direct burial cable. You can swap you breaker in the panel to a 2 pole 20 amp breaker, disconnect the white wire from the neutral bar and connect it to the 2nd pole of the new breaker, and boom: 220 volt 20 amp electrical service.

    Once it's in the garage you have to do some jiggery pokery to also be able to have 120 also (transformer,) but it's all doable. If you're interested, I could put together a pre-made panel board that would be more or less plug and play, you would just have to drive a ground rod if it hasn't been done already.

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    Can't you just pull in the 220 and split it in a sub-panel and have two 120V legs like a normal panel would be? If he has a ground going back to the panel and a grounding rod at the new panel, shouldn't be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    Can't you just pull in the 220 and split it in a sub-panel and have two 120V legs like a normal panel would be? If he has a ground going back to the panel and a grounding rod at the new panel, shouldn't be an issue.
    No, because the garage would be a sub panel you need a neutral (grounded) and a ground (grounding) conductor. The main panel is the only point in the service where the neutral and ground are bonded. At a sub panel, the only (practical) way to derive a neutral is with a transformer.

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    Steve is this SSVT. been thinking about doing something like this for some time. my father is a master welder in any material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    Can't you just pull in the 220 and split it in a sub-panel and have two 120V legs like a normal panel would be? If he has a ground going back to the panel and a grounding rod at the new panel, shouldn't be an issue.
    That's what I wanted him to do. I told him specifically, "I want to be able to run a 220V air compressor or welder."

    He didn't do it. He was so far behind on everything else I just paid him and sent him on his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    Steve is this SSVT. been thinking about doing something like this for some time. my father is a master welder in any material.
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    Pay attention during the oxy-acetylene part, to me it's the most useful process. With gas you can weld steel and aluminum, you can braze, cut, anneal and bend metal, free stuck bolts, etc.

    Once you know gas welding it helps a great deal with learning the other processes, especially TIG. Gas is slower than MIG but if you're not in a production environment it's really not that big of a deal.

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