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    We almost bought a Rais stove this month, but we have some code issues with our pipe routing. Not sure if we can get it legal easily. Rais stoves are non cat, ultra efficient and clean burning. Also expensive... Might end up with a minisplit instead

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    Re: Wood stove

    I have a Hampton insert. Which is a line from Regency with cast iron finishes. You are supposed to "maintain" cast iron? I had no idea. I chuck wood into mine and set it ablaze.
    ~4-5 years in and I think I may be due for a new set of bricks for the liner and a door gasket refresh. Maybe.
    I don't know if it is super efficient or not. I think it is pretty efficient. But it will not go 12 hours, no way. Nor is it top loading. Nor can you cook steaks on it.
    But it looks nice and throws really nice heat.

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    Re: Wood stove

    Any interest in a pellet stove.

    We have a working stove for a fireplace insert.

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    Re: Wood stove

    Ahh, stove sizing. We bought a stove that would heat our 1,250sf house, which was designed for passive solar and wood stove heating. But we didn’t pay attention to the fine print: yes it could keep the house warm even at -20. But we had to keep it well-stoked to do do, meaning getting up overnight to feed it.

    So after two seasons we replaced it with a larger model. Firebox is 2.3 cu ft and it has a side door as well as front. This makes it a lot easier to fill to capacity.

    Soapstone is wonderful stuff. Takes a while to warm up (at least 30 minutes) but holds heat for hours (called “heat life”). So it’s great for a living space like a living room or bedroom. It’s not good for someplace where you have no other heat source and want to heat it up fast.

    This thread reminds to sell our Hearthstone 8040. It’s a small soapstone stove that is rated to heat about 1,000sf.

    It has the optional rear heat shield so it can sit closer to a wall. It was over $2,000 but probably only $5-600 now. It’s sitting in our garage in NH.

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    Re: Wood stove

    I've had an old pre catalytic Jotul 8 for about 10 years now and its been a great stove. I bought it used specifically to not have to deal with the emissions stuff.

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    Re: Wood stove

    I've been thinking about trying something more efficient. My All Nighter Big Moe seems to lack efficiency. Should be plenty big enough to heat my 1 story 1000sqft ranch.

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    Re: Wood stove

    I would never purchase a wood "stove"

    if you have FHW central heat, I recommend an outdoor furnace, you can burn green wood, load em up for a 2-4 day burn time depending on model, and no dirty wood in your living area

    if you have FHA central heat like I do, then a FHA wood furnace, connect the plenum and distribute heat thru the same ductwork. I have a 48 hr burn time with my 35 year old Woodchuck

    if you have electric central heat... I'd go with a pellet stove

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    Re: Wood stove

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I would never purchase a wood "stove"

    if you have FHW central heat, I recommend an outdoor furnace, you can burn green wood, load em up for a 2-4 day burn time depending on model, and no dirty wood in your living area

    if you have FHA central heat like I do, then a FHA wood furnace, connect the plenum and distribute heat thru the same ductwork. I have a 48 hr burn time with my 35 year old Woodchuck

    if you have electric central heat... I'd go with a pellet stove
    The justification for the installation and purchase cost of an outdoor unit is much longer than a wood stove. Wouldn't make much sense for some especially where regulations are more stringent on outdoor units.

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    Re: Wood stove

    there are also indoor FHW wood furnaces if outdoor is not practical

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    Re: Wood stove

    Boooo....ATTENTION: Meyer Manufacturing will no longer will be manufacturing the Woodchuck Wood/Coal furnace due to EPA regulations. We will continue to supply parts and assist over the phone as needed. Specifications and manuals are available on this website for your assistance.

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    Re: Wood stove

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I would never purchase a wood "stove"

    if you have FHW central heat, I recommend an outdoor furnace, you can burn green wood, load em up for a 2-4 day burn time depending on model, and no dirty wood in your living area

    if you have FHA central heat like I do, then a FHA wood furnace, connect the plenum and distribute heat thru the same ductwork. I have a 48 hr burn time with my 35 year old Woodchuck

    if you have electric central heat... I'd go with a pellet stove
    The old outdoor wood boilers are way to much work. While you get 24-48 hour burn times, it also takes 1/4 cord if wood to get it, which translates to 10-12 cord if wood per season.
    My Hawken hi efficiency outdoor boiler gets a 12 hour burn with 8-10 pieces of wood, it's smokeless, and I'm burning 4-5 cord per season for heat and hot water.

    If I were to ever get a wood stove, I'd get an older Timberland steel plate stove. Steel plate gives instant heat, none of the cast iron clicking noises as it heats and cools down, and no emissions bs

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    Re: Wood stove

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    The old outdoor wood boilers
    you said it right there, there are new outdoor boilers that are just as efficient as your new indoor boiler, woodburning technology has come a log way, for both inside and outside wood burning furnaces/boilers

    there are even FHA outdoor furnaces on the market now, something I might consider to replace my old Woodchuck, for me, it would mean not only moving my pile of wood one less time, also less processing time as the wood could be longer pieces and split less

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    Re: Wood stove

    Looks like I might be replacing my oil furnace with a new oil furnace and attached Bosch heat pump. this uses existing ductwork and the unit is inside, so no visual impact. Big rebates in play for offsetting oil consumption this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    you said it right there, there are new outdoor boilers that are just as efficient as your new indoor boiler, woodburning technology has come a log way, for both inside and outside wood burning furnaces/boilers
    To your old vs new point, from your prior post about green wood, you cannot burn green wood in the high efficiency outdoor or indoor wood boilers. Mine requires 1 year seasoned, split and dry hardwood.

    I was told when I bought it, I could burn pine/spruce/fir, etc for softwoods, canít do that either. Softwood ash is so fine and light, it blows into the heat tubes and clogs them.

    Wet hardwood, you simply donít get enough heat out of, as the moisture/steam coming out of the wood as it burns, cools off the heat tubes and never transfers the heat to the tubes.

    While my outdoor boiler saves me a fortune every year (only because I donít buy firewood), I would never install another one. Iím not going to be able to/want to cut 6 cord of wood forever. And buying firewood in my opinion, takes away the advantage of wood. Spend your money on oil storage and stock up when prices are low in August.

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    Re: Wood stove

    Looks like we'll be going Blaze King soon. Still nothing other than "we'll get back to you" from Harman/dealer.

    Princess Ultra looks to be the ticket.

    If anyone wants a Harman TL300 that needs a bit of love, let me know. Weld/brace the corners of the top opening (cracks are less than 1/2") and replace the combuster and it should give you years of efficient heating.

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    Re: Wood stove

    seems like a nice unit. the king with a 72 hour burn= crazy


    with oak, i'm getting 6 hours fro 4 logs with the VC Resolute. = 500-600 box. maybe a 150 exhaust . However, The door does need a re-gasket. I should get an 8-10 burn.

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    Re: Wood stove

    To add to my post from a couple years ago regarding the stove fan: we ended up getting a STOVE/MODEL SPECIFIC fan that bolts to the back of the woodstove and comes on at a user preset temperature. What a difference in circulating warm air! Especially the heat that gets "trapped" behind the stove. Whoa! Big difference.

    We're still burning between 4-6 cord/year though, depending on many circumstances. We're still running our Lopi Liberty, and I usually replace the door gasket every few years, the glass gasket not as frequently. Still love the built-in damper ("bypass") that is awesome for reloading.

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    Re: Wood stove

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    I've been thinking about trying something more efficient. My All Nighter Big Moe seems to lack efficiency. Should be plenty big enough to heat my 1 story 1000sqft ranch.

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    Jesus, you must go through a ton of wood.

    1. Get a more efficient stove.

    2. Put it where you need heated living space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    I've been thinking about trying something more efficient. My All Nighter Big Moe seems to lack efficiency. Should be plenty big enough to heat my 1 story 1000sqft ranch.

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    Do you have any registers cut in the floor above the stove?

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    Hi Christian. do you have forced air ductwork. Put a hood above the stove and pipe it into the system. Add a valve to open/close the wood stove heat off.

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    Re: Wood stove

    So, no stove for us this year. After the installer insisted that we would have to make a new roof penetration instead of using our existing pipe routing, we started looking at other options. Pulled the trigger on replacing the oil furnace with a new...oil furnace. But This one allow use of a heat pump as well. The two will work together. I can set a crossover temp, let's say 28 degrees, where it will switch from electric heat pump to oil heat. both systems will use existing duct work, so installation is pretty straight forward. We also get central A/C for summer months. My HVAC guy thinks I can reduce my oil use by 80 percent, but still have the HP when it gets really cold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Pulled the trigger on replacing the oil furnace with a new...oil furnace. But This one allow use of a heat pump as well.
    Do you have any details on your new setup? My oil furnace is not young and it's been in the back of my mind that it will need updating sooner than later. I'm curious about your setup.

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    The heat pump system is by Bosch. The brand of the furnace and coil escapes me though (I'll get back to you). My HVAC guy is a good friend and he says this is the best setup in the business right now for a situation like mine. I'm getting 3600 back because it reduces oil consumption.

    It will also have some smart features. multiple temp sensors around the house to keep heat even, air recirculation 10 minutes of every hour to even out temps in the house, smart thermostat, etc.

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    It's a thermopride furnace and burner with the Bosch heat pump.

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    I guess I didn't realize heat pumps were available for forced hot air systems. That gives me plenty to think about.

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