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Bought these phantoms off ebay new with packaging. Sportbike trackgear had a clearance of these at $200 with no returns or exchanges (these are normally $280), The ebay seller bought them there and they did not fit. Because sportbiketrackgear is out of normal sizes on this clearance, I bought them from him for $200 and the fingers are slightly too long for me.
Offering them here for $200 before I put them on WERA or ebay. Only going to wait a couple of days, I need the money back to order the right size before a first trackday. These are amazing gloves, kangaroo palm, stingray inserts, etc, etc. Never seen gloves this well made before. I'm so impressed I may even buy phantoms at full price $280 because I can't find any my size left on clearance. Pretty pissed these didn't fit, awesome deal at $200.
Sportbiketrackgear
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=4843
Review
http://youtu.be/iFHWUukNSnE
This is how you measure your hand (I was in the 8.5" measurement but the fingers too long, best bet is to come try on)
http://sportbiketrackgear2.homestead.com/heldsize.html