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    According to this poll so far Johnson won the debate last night
    Poll: Who won the presidential debate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    If he wanted to develop some political clout

    He should have a meeting with Trump then throw his support tp him

    In 2 years then try for some in the congress seats, if he bought some good vibes from above
    lol. You funny.

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    I honestly think Johnson should go to Clinton rallies/events/speeches. At the end of her speech, she should introduce him: "Listen, if you don't want to vote for me because you don't like me, then vote for this guy. Gary Johnson. Mr.Johnson, come on up here and tell the world about your platform. "


    1. Clinton would still win.

    2. Trump would still lose.

    3. Chance that there would be more votes for Johnson, setting the Libertarian party up for a more able bodied run next time around.

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    I was day-dreaming the other day that if the republican party really doesn't like Trump, they should tell everyone Gary's all about 'Merica and freedumbs. It'd be really funny if both parties did it.

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    Clay. you are paying too much attention to mainstream media polls, the same establishment media that predicted Brexit would not pass in GB

    current Johnson polling shows him taking 5 electoral votes in NM and within margin of error in several other states, posssibly 24 electora votes total

    there is a substantial probability the election will be decided by the House

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    I wasn't knocking his ability to bring in some electoral votes. I was saying how he could use the mainstream media and established parties to gain a mutually beneficial arrangement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    I wasn't knocking his ability to bring in some electoral votes. I was saying how he could use the mainstream media and established parties to gain a mutually beneficial arrangement.
    But the LAST thing either major party wants is someone else in the picture. The Rs and the Ds are absolutely dedicated to keeping third parties out, and neither of them would or will even consider supporting the LP becoming a major party in any way.

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    Wrong. The LAST thing either major party wants is for the other to win. This would help avoid that if done wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Wrong. The LAST thing either major party wants is for the other to win. This would help avoid that if done wisely.
    Wrong. Flat out completely wrong. Either party will easily choose losing an election over any risk to their longterm duopoly on power.

    They amp up the rhetoric to keep people fooled and too scared to vote for anyone else. They LOVE and promote the lesser-of-two-evils fallacy.

    But they cooperate with each other consistently on keeping anyone else off the ballots and out of the debates and all of that.
    Why do you think both sides are going heavily on the "a vote for Johnson is a vote for the other party" bullshit?

    They're actually concerned that Johnson and the LP might make some progress this election. Neither the Rs nor the Ds want anyone ever to vote for anything but an R or D. They don't want anyone to realize that there are other choices. Hillary's only real strategy is to stoke up fear of Trump. Trump's only real strategy is to stoke up fear of Hillary. If a substantial portion of the electorate actually realizes that those aren't the only options, then both of them are screwed, along with their entire parties, and they know that.

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    With only the two of them, keeping people distracted away from the real issues is much easier.

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    Damn. I just agreed with PhilB. Fuck.

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    Ooof. Sorry bro.

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    I suspect there will be a surge of support for him if people realize Clinton is going to win in their state and they can now "throw their vote away". Thanks to y'all I now answer the phone for pollsters so I can wade through none-of-the-above and hopefully get in a yes for Johnson after all the biased questions.

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