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    Please reboot your humor processor

    FBI only Clinton can get away with EMAIL abuse, so don't think you can.

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    If you like Trump, you are a Nazi.

    Isn't it fun when someone "argues" like you?

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    Is there a song "Hob Nail Boots"

    Just when your respect for the legal system........

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    Re: Johnson-Weld?

    Interesting results so far.....

    Johnson is crushing Clinton and Trump.

    Vote now: Who would you vote to be president if voting today?

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    Re: Johnson-Weld?

    On a random online poll.

    Don't get excited, very typical result.

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    It's a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    On a random online poll.

    Don't get excited, very typical result.
    Such the Debbie Downer....

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    Re: Johnson-Weld?

    It's internet. If you look to the internet as a source of what is really happening in the world by polls, then the world appears to be a VERY strange place to be.

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    The World IS a very strange place to be, one could almost say scarily strange in fact.

    There are very few polls which actually show an unbiased result. This is created by biased sampling and question structuring. I've sat in meetings for hours going over questionnaires and how questions are worded, even the order of the questions and inflection given when asking the questions all to create unbiased data. It works the other way too. I do not trust any polls anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    The World IS a very strange place to be, one could almost say scarily strange in fact.

    There are very few polls which actually show an unbiased result. This is created by biased sampling and question structuring. I've sat in meetings for hours going over questionnaires and how questions are worded, even the order of the questions and inflection given when asking the questions all to create unbiased data. It works the other way too. I do not trust any polls anymore.
    And even if you do somehow manage to create an unbiased poll -- where is it posted, who goes to that website, are the numbers small enough to be influenced by a couple people calling their friends to go there and vote, is there security to prevent multiple votes and "stuffing the ballot box"?

    The valid point of this isn't the results of this one poll, but rather that it's one piece of the picture, and that the picture is that more people than ever (a) know who the LP candidate is, (b) know that he exists and the LP exists, and (c) like at least some of what they see.

    Media attention for Johnson and Weld is way up from previous elections, and they are being taken seriously. Even the major polls are starting to have to take this into account. It's very unlikely that they will win the election, but they will be a factor; they will get greater publicity and support than in the past for the LP and its ideas, they have a good chance to get major party status in a fair number of states, and could achieve inclusion in the debates. Those would be significant advances, and would help pave the way to future success.

    Those are the things I'm hoping for, and helping to make happen with my vote, voice, and support. Yes, we'll almost certainly end up with H or T as our next president. They both suck badly; neither of them is anywhere close to deserving my vote, voice, or support. Those short-sighted enough to support the status quo will get to decide which flavor of turd sandwich we get. Yay for them. I'm voting for at least ham-and-cheese, in the hopes of actually being able to get a ham-and-cheese within my lifetime. I'm really tired of 40+ years of increasingly slimy and odoriferous turd sandwiches.

    It's not going to get better unless and until a significant number of people decide to do something different and make a change happen. I'm only one of those people, but at least I AM one of those people.

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    I always thought the last couple of elections were prime to bring out a third party. But this one eclipses those by a landslide. I do hope the media machines are forced to accept and provide equal opportunity for these guys. It would be nice to have an alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falko View Post
    I always thought the last couple of elections were prime to bring out a third party. But this one eclipses those by a landslide. I do hope the media machines are forced to accept and provide equal opportunity for these guys. It would be nice to have an alternative.
    Hell, I've been thinking that for over 40 years. The LP was founded in 1972, to provide a badly needed alternative to Nixon vs. McGovern. I was in 5th grade, and could see that those two choices both sucked. And the big parties haven't gotten any better since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilB View Post
    Hell, I've been thinking that for over 40 years. The LP was founded in 1972, to provide a badly needed alternative to Nixon vs. McGovern. I was in 5th grade, and could see that those two choices both sucked. And the big parties haven't gotten any better since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I hate to admit it, but I voted for Tricky Dick in that election

    and I didn't vote for Bernie Sanders for Governor
    I probably would have voted for Reagan in 1980 -- he said good things and I was still young enough to believe that meant something -- but I was 2 months too young for that election. By 1984 I had observed reality a bit more, so in practice I have never voted for either an R or a D for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Interesting results so far.....

    Johnson is crushing Clinton and Trump.

    Vote now: Who would you vote to be president if voting today?
    my opinion is that is a Clinton campaign poll that is backfiring
    I was going to share the poll on facebook until I noticed that it posts a picture of Hillary and not the other candidates

    so far, the poll is showing a Johnson landslide that is getting bigger with Johnson getting 522 electoral college votes , Trump 16 and Clinton ZERO

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    my opinion is that is a Clinton campaign poll that is backfiring
    I was going to share the poll on facebook until I noticed that it posts a picture of Hillary and not the other candidates

    so far, the poll is showing a Johnson landslide that is getting bigger with Johnson getting 522 electoral college votes , Trump 16 and Clinton ZERO
    Check your meds, that link shows Clinton and Trump looking smug, and Johnson looking stoned.

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    I think he means if you share it on Facebook it only shows the image of Mrs. Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    I think he means if you share it on Facebook it only shows the image of Mrs. Clinton.
    Wow, how does that work? In other words, why is that, I wonder?

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    It's the first image I would guess, but I haven't actually tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    It's the first image I would guess, but I haven't actually tried.
    click on the share with facebook link, a window will pop open showing what you are about to post to facebook, a cheery picture of Hillary Clinton giving first impression to people that follow your wall that you are a Clinton supporter, at which time you can cancel from sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I was going to share the poll on facebook until I noticed that it posts a picture of Hillary and not the other candidates
    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    It's the first image I would guess, but I haven't actually tried.
    It picks a random photo from the page, and if you feel so inclined, you can change it using the little arrow buttons above the photo.

    Sorry, no Facebook conspiracy here!



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    Johnson's lead is getting bigger, now over 50% of the popular vote. Trump is only holding on to one state, Wyoming

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Johnson's lead is getting bigger, now over 50% of the popular vote. Trump is only holding on to one state, Wyoming
    And more relevant, he's gone up from 11% to 12% in major polling, and thus stands a fair chance of getting to 15% and being included in the debates. That would be a major step forward. If it happens, I hope he gets some good debate practice and prep; he does put his foot in his mouth from time to time.

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