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    Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll


    Preliminary hearing happened recently. Didn't go well for Kyle in getting two charges dismissed. No trial date. Another hearing after the holidays.


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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    This dude is a s**tstorm! The two issues that will bite him in the ass are that: 1. he was 17; and 2. he was in possession of a firearm without any legal justification. The prosecutors will try to show that he was looking for a fight, and the facts do make that portrayal believable. Personally I think he showed rather remarkable restraint when he was attacked and the shootings were in self defense, but the first shooting - if shown to be not justified - will turn the tables on the subsequent shootings. The second and third shootings, by their appearance on video, clearly look to be self defense provided he wasn't the initial aggressor, or someone who's attackers weren't justified in their attacks. The first shooting is the one which lacks a clear view of the act and the acts immediately preceding. This is what will make or break his defense.

    What is clear is that he shouldn't have gone there in the first place.

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    Wait, I thought the youtubes were still on election fraud? Did they switch? It's so hard to keep track of how the cuck left is destroying the country.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Nothing to see here, just another Rambo trolling poll so that he can attempt to label anyone who disagrees with him as commie, lefty, and, as we’ve recently seen, much worse.

    Be careful, though, he’s a wounded animal in a corner, the lashing out will continue.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by eboos View Post
    This dude is a s**tstorm! The two issues that will bite him in the ass are that: 1. he was 17; and 2. he was in possession of a firearm without any legal justification. The prosecutors will try to show that he was looking for a fight, and the facts do make that portrayal believable. Personally I think he showed rather remarkable restraint when he was attacked and the shootings were in self defense, but the first shooting - if shown to be not justified - will turn the tables on the subsequent shootings. The second and third shootings, by their appearance on video, clearly look to be self defense provided he wasn't the initial aggressor, or someone who's attackers weren't justified in their attacks. The first shooting is the one which lacks a clear view of the act and the acts immediately preceding. This is what will make or break his defense.

    What is clear is that he shouldn't have gone there in the first place.
    Without knowing the specific laws in that state, I'd tend to lean on the guilty side. First & foremost, he's from another state. He claims he was there to help, but he appears to be "standing guard" at a random shop. I don't think in that respect it could be considered "standing your ground", even IF Wisconsin is a "stand your ground" state.

    The second & third shootings APPEAR to be self-defense. But as you said, the circumstances that surround the first shooting are cloudy at best. If the first shooting was indeed NOT what may be considered justifiable, how are we to know the others weren't trying to apprehend him? It appears a handgun is in possession of another person during the second & third shootings. But at that point, what was THEIR intent? Was it to cause bodily harm or was it used as a tool to help apprehend him?

    EDIT: He's from Illinois? Doesn't Illinois have incredibly strict gun laws? In which case, how could a 17-year old get his hands on that rifle?

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    Without knowing the specific laws in that state, I'd tend to lean on the guilty side. First & foremost, he's from another state. He claims he was there to help, but he appears to be "standing guard" at a random shop. I don't think in that respect it could be considered "standing your ground", even IF Wisconsin is a "stand your ground" state.

    The second & third shootings APPEAR to be self-defense. But as you said, the circumstances that surround the first shooting are cloudy at best. If the first shooting was indeed NOT what may be considered justifiable, how are we to know the others weren't trying to apprehend him? It appears a handgun is in possession of another person during the second & third shootings. But at that point, what was THEIR intent? Was it to cause bodily harm or was it used as a tool to help apprehend him?

    EDIT: He's from Illinois? Doesn't Illinois have incredibly strict gun laws? In which case, how could a 17-year old get his hands on that rifle?
    Someone in WI bought the gun and gave it to him. Lol

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by eboos View Post
    This dude is a s**tstorm! The two issues that will bite him in the ass are that: 1. he was 17; and 2. he was in possession of a firearm without any legal justification. The prosecutors will try to show that he was looking for a fight, and the facts do make that portrayal believable. Personally I think he showed rather remarkable restraint when he was attacked and the shootings were in self defense, but the first shooting - if shown to be not justified - will turn the tables on the subsequent shootings. The second and third shootings, by their appearance on video, clearly look to be self defense provided he wasn't the initial aggressor, or someone who's attackers weren't justified in their attacks. The first shooting is the one which lacks a clear view of the act and the acts immediately preceding. This is what will make or break his defense.

    What is clear is that he shouldn't have gone there in the first place.
    Will this trial be televised like the OJ trial? Will it be bigger than the OJ trial? It certainly is fascinating to watch the preliminary hearing.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by capitalcrew View Post
    Someone in WI bought the gun and gave it to him. Lol
    Is that factual or are you just screwing around? So fuckin' hard to tell these days around here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    Is that factual or are you just screwing around? So fuckin' hard to tell these days around here!
    I’m reasonably certain that it’s well known his friend bought the weapon used for him, as he was too young.

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    Other guys that were shot were good guys with guns trying to stop the bad guy with a gun.

    He shot the good guys with guns in self defense.

    Gun fanatics are going to have a field day with mental gymnastics on this one.


    Good guys with guns gets shot by a guy in self defense with an illegal gun.

    This is what happens when two gun owners face each other and each one is thinking they are doing the right thing.

    One gets tried by 12 other doesn't live to tell the tale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    Is that factual or are you just screwing around? So fuckin' hard to tell these days around here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I’m reasonably certain that it’s well known his friend bought the weapon used for him, as he was too young.
    I've been avoiding any & all news sources & outlets like the plague these past few weeks.

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    The good for him
    He was acting "like a good Samaritan" when his actions of undoing the fire, angered the fire doer.
    He acted in self defense killing the fire doer.
    He acted in self defense killing one of the guys trying to apprehend him for killing the fire doer
    He surrendered himself

    The bad for him
    He put himself into the entire area unnecessary
    He had an illegal gun
    He chose to protect property that wasn't his to protect provoking altercations
    He did not give up the illegal gun at the surrendering


    He's probably going to get pretty screwed but stranger things have happened.

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    Charge everyone that committed a crime. Both sides. To me, this isn't a who's right, who's wrong. Its just a whole lot of wrong that does not cancel each other out.
    Nothing here is justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JettaJayGLS View Post
    Charge everyone that committed a crime. Both sides. To me, this isn't a who's right, who's wrong. Its just a whole lot of wrong that does not cancel each other out.
    Nothing here is justified.
    Well you can't charge the dead guys.



    And it sets a very bad precedent trying to charge "good Samaritans that are trying to apprehend a murderer". That ruins a fantasy for a lot of people where they are the hero that save the day.

    See all the stories of veterans stopping shooters with a headshot from hundred feet away.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Sorry, I wasn't clear, and I also oversimplified. Real quick, my view, in very simple terms

    Kyle - murder charges & gun charges
    Guy who gave Kyle the gun - gun charges & however that plays into the murder charges
    Guy lighting the fire/chasing him - arson & whatever you charge for chasing someone
    People who were trying to stop the active shooter - nothing
    Anyone they can find that fired at Kyle before he was an active shooter - attempted muder

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    Quote Originally Posted by JettaJayGLS View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't clear, and I also oversimplified. Real quick, my view, in very simple terms

    Kyle - murder charges & gun charges - done
    Guy who gave Kyle the gun - gun charges & however that plays into the murder charges done
    Guy lighting the fire/chasing him - dead
    People who were trying to stop the active shooter - nothing done
    Anyone they can find that fired at Kyle before he was an active shooter - attempted muder
    It's kinda where we are at unless I missed some facts.

    The problem is that half the country thinks that being a vigilante stopping rioters gives you a hall pass at any cost and he couldn't have been wrong or guilty of anything because he was doing the "right thing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    It's kinda where we are at unless I missed some facts.
    Excellent. To clarify further, I think each of those people are guilty of those. And I believe you can still try dead people for closure? I think that could go a long way in this case.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    It's kinda where we are at unless I missed some facts.

    The problem is that half the country thinks that being a vigilante stopping rioters gives you a hall pass at any cost and he couldn't have been wrong or guilty of anything because he was doing the "right thing".
    I think his biggest downfall as far as the shootings go (I'm talking strictly about the shootings) is he wasn't protecting HIS property AND he abandoned said property. As far as I can tell anyway from the shitty videos. And most of those have been edited in some way to play to the needs of the different sides.

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Poll is bullshit and shit storm is an accurate description for this whole deal.

    He's most likely guilty of count 6 as more details come out about where the gun came from in the first place.

    As for the details of what we know about the actual shootings, I think he's definitely innocent of the 2nd two, most likely innocent on the first one and it's a stretch to throw the book at him regarding endangering.

    Based on all the different videos I've seen he was not looking for a fight or hunting humans as the prosecutor is stating. Arm chair quarter backing it looks like he was there initially for the right reasons but shouldn't have stayed after dark and over his head at that point.

    That said, he handled himself extremely well all things considered once things went tits up. Arguably better composed then a lot of trained police for example. His judgment was then spot on and his overall hit rate seems inline with their averages. Note how he aimed at Glock dude, but didn't fire when he put his hands up and lowered his weapon. He only raised it again and sent a round when the Glock dude lunged at him again. Not bad for a teenager...

    I can't say I might have the presence of mind to do that. If I'm on the ground after being kicked and hit over the head in the middle of a hostile crowd I think I'm probably dropping everyone around me close range and figuring it out later.

    They are definitely trying to make an example of this kid, but note how peaceful Kenosha became after someone fought back compared to say Portland.

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    who in fuck is Kyle Rittenhouse ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    who in fuck is Kyle Rittenhouse ?
    A hero or a murderer depending on who you ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Poll is bullshit and shit storm is an accurate description for this whole deal.

    He's most likely guilty of count 6 as more details come out about where the gun came from in the first place.

    As for the details of what we know about the actual shootings, I think he's definitely innocent of the 2nd two, most likely innocent on the first one and it's a stretch to throw the book at him regarding endangering.

    Based on all the different videos I've seen he was not looking for a fight or hunting humans as the prosecutor is stating. Arm chair quarter backing it looks like he was there initially for the right reasons but shouldn't have stayed after dark and over his head at that point.

    That said, he handled himself extremely well all things considered once things went tits up. Arguably better composed then a lot of trained police for example. His judgment was then spot on and his overall hit rate seems inline with their averages. Note how he aimed at Glock dude, but didn't fire when he put his hands up and lowered his weapon. He only raised it again and sent a round when the Glock dude lunged at him again. Not bad for a teenager...

    I can't say I might have the presence of mind to do that. If I'm on the ground after being kicked and hit over the head in the middle of a hostile crowd I think I'm probably dropping everyone around me close range and figuring it out later.

    They are definitely trying to make an example of this kid, but note how peaceful Kenosha became after someone fought back compared to say Portland.
    Stop jerking off for a second and ask yourself why the fuck did a child leave his home, travel to another state and put himself in the position to be the "a good guy with a gun".

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    Re: Kyle Rittenhouse . Guilty or Innocent? Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    Stop jerking off for a second and ask yourself why the fuck did a child leave his home, travel to another state and put himself in the position to be the "a good guy with a gun".
    Because he had the same hero complex most gun enthusiasts do.
    And the lack of discretion on when/how to try and play that role.

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