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    Re: Live free... Or don't?


    For me it isn't an issue of inconvenience or time wasted... I just feel weird about the idea of having to prove (or make sure an officer is convinced at least) that I'm innocent of all crimes at random without any reason for them to question otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sveesix View Post
    I think these checkpoints are far more efficient by the numbers if you break it down!



    You are welcome to your opinion just like the rest of us.


    Look at how well arresting people for drugs has been so far!


    HOORAY WAR ON DRUGS!

    Are you the "lock them all up" or "just let them all die" for drug users?

    I mean, those are the ONLY two options. Everything in life is a boolean decision!

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    Maybe all those drug arrests were just people from MA thinking they were also in a "free" state and had a joint in their car?

    OH, that's right. NH. Mass' hardass more laws than necessary little brother. "Live Free or (move north to NH)"

    Who is the nanny state now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Ya, until one of those people sneaking in from Columbia kills someone, or the drugs they bring in do. But you'll only care if you are personally effected.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Answer me two questions.

    How many people are killed by columbian drug runners in New England each year?

    How many people are killed on motorcycles in New England each year?

    Yeah, let's use your false logic. Gunna work out so good for us motorcycle riders in the end.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Dunno, don't have the data, you'll have to forgive me as I'm sure you will since we are constitutional brothers.

    But I'm pretty sure there is a drug problem, so while the Columbians themselves may not KILL someone, their drugs, crimes or actions could lead to it, all while not contributing to society. But hey, the end game of all this constitutional discussion is to stop the slippery slope before it affects us having whatever gun or bike we want. Got it.

    Its funny, read my original passive question, a SOMEWHAT (read: not entirely sold on it myself), NECESSARY EVIL (acknowledging it as an evil).

    But please @loudbeard , keep telling me what I am afraid of.
    I had no idea that drug dealers and murderers are coming to Massachusetts from Washington, D.C.

    We should build a wall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    I had no idea that drug dealers and murderers are coming to Massachusetts from Washington, D.C.

    We should build a wall!
    They caught multiple illegals from Columbia at the exit 32 check point. They are coming in thru Canada. So, now you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Maybe all those drug arrests were just people from MA thinking they were also in a "free" state and had a joint in their car?

    OH, that's right. NH. Mass' hardass more laws than necessary little brother. "Live Free or (move north to NH)"

    Who is the nanny state now?
    Just because the checkpoint happened in NH doesn't mean this is a state issue. The state has absolutely nothing to do with it. They're federal.

    Massachusetts is a democratic shithole with nothing except feel-good firearm and insurance laws that make no sense.


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    Live free... Or don't?-screenshot_2017-09-29-13-02-a

    According to the globe

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    That Oxford comma is a bitch, eh?

    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    You are right. I've changed my mind. On fact, while we are at it, let's do away with toll booths (taxation is theft!!!), stop lights and stop signs. You all need to have the right of way, free of inconvenience. This is your world. Fuck everyone else.
    This is an all too common reaction that when someone suggests we need to ease up, that means they're advocating for chaos and lawlessness. Challenging whether we should have certain laws, or certain enforcement tactics should be seen as a rational question/discussion. It is rarely ever a push for anarchy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    So let people doing illegal things go unnoticed so long as your preference is not interrupted. Got it.
    If that's your point, then when can someone be by later to search your house? We should not let you or anyone else get away with anything. I bet you have nothing to hide.

    I've seen quite a few mentions of drug arrests, but how many of these are attributable to drug distribution opposed to smaller possession? It should be no surprise that a person with a drug addiction sometimes attempts to cross borders with drugs. It's an important distinction because you can't try to leverage those arrests as points against cartel concerns. Granted, if you just legalize the drugs many of the problems go away but something tells me you could never be okay with that level of freedom.

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    If drugs are legalized, then they are legalized. If illegals come to America thru the proper steps, then they wouldn't be illegal. No free rides.

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    Because WE all end up paying for it one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    They caught multiple illegals from Columbia at the exit 32 check point. They are coming in thru Canada. So, now you know.
    The District of Columbia is the name of our nation's capital.

    Colombia is a country in South America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    The District of Columbia is the name of our nation's capital.

    Colombia is a country in South America.

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    Ya, I thought there was no way this dude is crying over a typo, but sure enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    The District of Columbia is the name of our nation's capital.

    Colombia is a country in South America.

    Happy Friday
    it's also the name of a town in northern New Hampshire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Ya, I thought there was no way this dude is crying over a typo, but sure enough...
    Oh, I am precisely that big of an asshole.

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    I just finished Season 3 of Narcos last night too. I should know how to spell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Live free... Or don't?-screenshot_2017-09-29-13-02-a

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    Slow clap for them. They could obtain better results by targeting one street in any of the so called sanctuary cities if they really wanted to.

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    And look how it was crafted to imply but not state that the drugs were confiscated from those 25 people here illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    If drugs are legalized, then they are legalized. If illegals come to America thru the proper steps, then they wouldn't be illegal. No free rides.
    What you're missing is that we're saying there can never be perfect and total enforcement of any law. While we have laws, and should still have laws, we should not surrender freedoms like traveling around our state a good distance from the border.

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    Ahhhhh winter I have missed you so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Currently our biggest problem, by a wide fucking margin, is Americans killing Americans. Why is it so much more offensive when an illegal kills someone? The result is the same, someone is dead. If their drugs happen to kill someone...well maybe they shouldn't be doing drugs then. I'm personally not willing to forego my 4th Amendment rights so you can feel better about the Colombians.
    Biggest problem to me is our corrupt government, not murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrocket21 View Post
    Biggest problem to me is our corrupt government, not murder
    You're being intentionally obtuse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    You're being intentionally obtuse.


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    Immigration Checkpoints: One more way that I get to enjoy my white privilege.

    I'm not fluent in Spanish by any means, but have been learning the language on my own(Duolingo) for about a year now. I would definitely be testing it out at one of these checkpoints. Papers please? Really? In America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveGaugeSage View Post
    Immigration Checkpoints: One more way that I get to enjoy my white privilege.

    I'm not fluent in Spanish by any means, but have been learning the language on my own(Duolingo) for about a year now. I would definitely be testing it out at one of these checkpoints. Papers please? Really? In America?
    Good point. I should learn how to say am I being detained and am I free to go in Spanish.

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