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    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    waitaminute mr. worksmarty. what would you call those lendingscammers? the working smart type? a lot of people are trusting?(what's the word for that?). if you dont lend them money in the first place, what the hell can they do? shoot somebody? they're not reckless like drunk driving. there should be law for reckless anything.

    some people ask when they don't have but guess what nobody's putting pistol to your head if you don't reach out. they will go somewhere else. Mexico maybe. if you were to run for president what would you say to those non-working smart people? tell them to work smart? but how? i guess living the american dream isn't about just working hard.

    for senior citizens "...that were smart enough saved money and can take care of themselves." it doesn't matter. soon they're not gonna be able to wipe themselves and after that last breath.
    Is it a law that everyone owns a house? If someone can't afford a house or can't get a loan for one since they can't really afford it, why should they get a loan or a house?

    People need to look out for themselves. BUYER BEWARE. Some people get fucked when they shouldn't of. Is that the rest of the populations responsibility? No, it's the person doing the fucking. You have to watch out for #1. Get educated about what you are doing and take precautions. While it's still not 100%, it's a lot better than most people do.


    People that don't work? You are right, I don't give to people I feel are undeserving. I help out my friends whenever I can and help stangers plenty. Do I want my tax dollars going to some lady in Dorchester who paid $480k for a house as a single parent and then refuses to get evicted when her variable rate mortgage payment goes up? NO.

    YES, people have gotten fucked by predatory lending. Yes, there are bad lenders out there. YES, there are TONS of resources and government programs to help lower income people become homeowners. But those aren't the easy way out, they aren't the low low low monthly payment for the first two years to make people have a dillusion that they can really afford a $300k house on $75k a year. Same thing with credit cards. You know what your rate is? Probably about 19%. Do people still max their credit cards out? Sure do. Is that the credit card companies fault? Nope, seems like it's the person doing the spending.


    God damnit. Everyone bitches about how personal responsibility is in the shitter in this country but wants Papa Government to be responsible for anything remotely unpleasant in their lives.

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    Re: Obama means $10 gas

    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    $10 is not inevitable unless we do more stupid things.

    I have seen gas in real dollars go up and down. If there is a minor recession then prices should back off. It could go down to $2.00 again.

    just burning coal in powerplants would go a long way.

    I don't think any of our next Presidents have the right stuff to twist the Saudi's arm plus do the drilling etc. we need.
    Stupid things?

    Like continue on the path we are taking?

    Oil is not a fight we're going to win, nor is it worth fighting.

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    all i know is that BUYER BEWARE means beware the house dont go to shit after you buy it.

    now all i know is whatever the fuck bank tells me how much i can afford after giving them all the info. they're expert and suppose to help you. right i know business is in only for money. i suppose it's not their fault for not giving you the rate prediction in 5 yrs but hands you that 5yr adjustable anyway. the fuckin loan officer makes his cuts and he moves on. what did he care about future economy. dont they know better to lend out $480k adjustable rate to that lady in wherever? if it weren't for these fuckin adjustable we wouldn't be in so much mess. why do they even have this ARM anyway for first time home buyer?

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    Re: Obama means $10 gas

    Why?

    They are in business to make money, that's why. Same with the oil companies.

    ... and it now all comes together! Capitalism at work.

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    Remember, you buy a mortgage just like a house. Gotta shop around, read the fine print and be realistic.

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    Kham, the bank told us we could afford $250k for a house.

    Sure! Before taxes, food, living expenses, etc!

    Take what the bank says and shoot for 75% of that number. Banks use numbers only, not life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Kham, the bank told us we could afford $250k for a house.

    Sure! Before taxes, food, living expenses, etc!

    Take what the bank says and shoot for 75% of that number. Banks use numbers only, not life.
    why don't they tell you take 75% of that number? how hard is that?

    you're missing the point. they're all fuckin greedy and look now they're going down too.

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    Yeah, they are. Just like we are. You want money? I sure do.

    If you don't want to give them your money, don't do business with them. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Yeah, they are. Just like we are. You want money? I sure do.

    If you don't want to give them your money, don't do business with them. Simple as that.
    yea well i do but i wouldn't screw others for it or sell illegal drugs.

    what the hell we're arguing about here? we're just going round and round. forget it man.

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    Hmmm, if gas prices do climb to $10 maybe it'll keep a lot of the shitbags off the roads. Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisNoF4i View Post
    Hmmm, if gas prices do climb to $10 maybe it'll keep a lot of the shitbags off the roads. Good times.
    shitbags with no money will stay home but i think there plenty of shitbags with plenty money to burn.

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    I like to argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    I like to argue.
    No you don't.

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    hey honky, your buddy pres. bush disagrees with you. government is not jump starting the corps.


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    Come on now, you're smarter than that..
    1 gallon of gas will cut 4 cord of wood with a sharp chainsaw
    5 gallons of gas will split the 4 cords of wood you just cut
    And maybe 20 gallons of gas at most to haul the 4 cord of wood from the woods to the house.
    What are we up to, 26 gallons of gas? That same 4 cord of wood is easily worth 500+ gallons of heating oil. I'm heating my house 99% with wood, and I'm already kicking myself in the ass for not getting a combo wood/oil boiler, then even my hot water would be wood. I've used about 35 gallons of oil sence I filled my tank in the beginning of October, and 34 of those I'm sure was just for hot water

    Quote Originally Posted by highsider View Post
    Not to take it off topic, but fuck it I will anyway.

    I heat with wood as well - but the wood is cut with a gas powered chainsaw, hauled out of the woods with a gas powered tractor, split with a gas powered log splitter, and hauled to your house in a gas powered truck. So while I enjoy the heat I get, I dont know how much good I'm doing either the environment or the oil problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    Come on now, you're smarter than that..
    1 gallon of gas will cut 4 cord of wood with a sharp chainsaw
    5 gallons of gas will split the 4 cords of wood you just cut
    And maybe 20 gallons of gas at most to haul the 4 cord of wood from the woods to the house.
    What are we up to, 26 gallons of gas? That same 4 cord of wood is easily worth 500+ gallons of heating oil. I'm heating my house 99% with wood, and I'm already kicking myself in the ass for not getting a combo wood/oil boiler, then even my hot water would be wood. I've used about 35 gallons of oil sence I filled my tank in the beginning of October, and 34 of those I'm sure was just for hot water
    Hey, woodsie. I suggest you purchase soon whatever wood fired appliance(s) you feel you may want. The greenies are working hard at demanding regulations on emissions for that shit. Most locales around me have already banned or heavily restricted those wood fired boiler deals.

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    heating oil will be 3.85 this week.

    MAD MAX!

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    heating oil will be 3.85 this week.

    MAD MAX!
    Where is my gyrocopter when I need it?

    I just keep looking outside, waiting patiently for the ice to melt on my road. Then I'll have 7+ months of riding to work with 60+mpg fuel efficiency.

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    Where is my gyrocopter when I need it?

    I just keep looking outside, waiting patiently for the ice to melt on my road. Then I'll have 7+ months of riding to work with 60+mpg fuel efficiency.
    dont you mean flying to work with the steam engine?

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    Steam is not an efficient method of power transmission when it comes to vehicles.

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    Obama has "further clarified" his position on Iraq

    He will remove "combat troops" out of Iraq as soon as he thinks its feasible
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    Unless he finds that AlQuida is in Iraq ??? psst


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    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    Obama has "further clarified" his position on Iraq

    He will remove "combat troops" out of Iraq as soon as he thinks its feasible
    (2050)

    Unless he finds that AlQuida is in Iraq ??? psst


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    So what you are saying is.....nothing.

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    here's one gas price analysis. it's not so bad. i don't know what the fuck they're talking about rising income. seems im going backward.

    so that's where the gas tax in europe went? not so much maintening roads. what is our excise tax used for?

    "And some people, usually Europeans, like to point out that gasoline is still far cheaper in the United States than it is in Europe, where it can cost upwards of $8 a gallon.

    Others argue that's it's not fair to compare the United States and Europe, as Europe's high prices are largely due to taxes, which are then used to fund public benefits such as mass transit or cheaper health care."


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    I am probably selling the Burgman 650
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    But you have to me secure in your manhood

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    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    Obama has "further clarified" his position on Iraq

    He will remove "combat troops" out of Iraq as soon as he thinks its feasible
    (2050)

    Unless he finds that AlQuida is in Iraq ??? psst


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    Meanwhile this administration has plunged the country into recession , invaded another country in a war of vanity .
    Oil was $38 dollars a barrell when the great uniter came into office.
    The attack on civil liberties is relentless and every second word from the white house is terror.
    \The american dollar is being devalued at a relentless rate while the great one himself sits around fiddling while rome burns.
    I think history will judge this man very poorly.
    Almost 4000 dead Americans and hundreds of thouseand dead Iraqis for what??
    The war profiteering by the likes of Halliburton on the backs of dead americans in Iraq goes on unchecked but in all this the only thing you can come up with is some lame 10dollar a gallon one liner. The way things are going we won't have to wait that long.
    At least try and come up with a cogent arguement but I relize I may be asking too much .
    Any change at this stage has to be better than the situation we are in right now.

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