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    Most specialists with a good practice won't take medicare

    My GP only kept my wife and I on because we had 20 years of private insurance before going medicare

    Basically medicare for all would quickly become medicare for none, as physicians won't take it. Remember most doctors 40+ years old
    already have FU money and can quit anytime. A lot of single payers have a brighter population and there is an amount of political connection
    to get the better treatment sooner. Being a hermit by nature I would really be screwed

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    Any doctor not taking medicare under medicare for all would likely go out of business. That aside:

    "According to a University of Michigan study, 60 percent of your healthcare spending takes place once you're eligible for Medicare on your 65th birthday. A whopping 93 percent of primary care physicians accept Medicare – just as many who take private insurance."

    Do All Doctors Accept Medicare? - HealthCare.com

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    Just in case we needed a reminder of who exactly this man is he made this tweet about the CA fires this morning (as bodies are being discovered and thousands more homes burn, people are literally racing for their lives):
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...0%2Fframe.html

    And later today he cancels on visiting an American military graveyard outside Paris, the reason he's in France.

    Everything else aside, he is a pile of human garbage.

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    There’s a ton of speculation that he’s really in France to have a bro-down with vlad, without being too tin-foily.

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    I heard this podcast, America's Hidden Duopoly, on NPR over the weekend. Really interesting argument that Big R and Big D function as a duopoly but it is unique in that typically when there is such a high level of consumer (voter) dissatisfaction another firm would enter the market and said market would remain competitive. Basically it examines our current two party system and measures it's success through the lens of business analysis. It's hard to disagree with any of their findings. Well worth an hour of your day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    I heard this podcast, America's Hidden Duopoly, on NPR over the weekend. Really interesting argument that Big R and Big D function as a duopoly but it is unique in that typically when there is such a high level of consumer (voter) dissatisfaction another firm would enter the market and said market would remain competitive. Basically it examines our current two party system and measures it's success through the lens of business analysis. It's hard to disagree with any of their findings. Well worth an hour of your day.

    I think I already mentioned this further up the thread, but the 2 party lock on the system is caused by our electoral system. You need a different electoral system (something like the one that Maine just adopted) to allow third parties to emerge. As it is, we are locked into a "lesser evil" scenario where we are guaranteed to get evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Were all referring to the same thing. Its called hypocrisy.
    Agreed, but I'm not calling out Falko on this. I'm talking about The million acre midwestern farmers who get huge subsidies to grow (or sometimes to just NOT grow) stuff. Those are the ones who are undercutting their smaller cousins and helping to fix prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshk1025 View Post
    I think I already mentioned this further up the thread, but the 2 party lock on the system is caused by our electoral system. You need a different electoral system (something like the one that Maine just adopted) to allow third parties to emerge. As it is, we are locked into a "lesser evil" scenario where we are guaranteed to get evil.
    Right, it's not exactly a new idea that the two party system is broken. This podcast takes that concept and examines why and what the two parties have done to ensure it stays that way, even to the point of suggesting that the two are willfully colluding (shock!) to perpetuate the system. What I really liked about it was it takes all these ideas that many people have about our political system's dysfunction and examines them in the way you would study the performance of a given industry. 'WE NEED A BUSINESS MAN IN OFFICE!!!" The last 15 minutes or so the authors of the study get into solutions that they think would help to eliminate the grip that the parties have over the voting system; primaries, gerrymandering, access to data and so on. There are some good ideas in there, such as a ranked choice non-partisan voting system for primaries. This one in particular would make the idea that voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away a thing of the past.

    Anyhow, very much worth a listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Right, it's not exactly a new idea that the two party system is broken. This podcast takes that concept and examines why and what the two parties have done to ensure it stays that way, even to the point of suggesting that the two are willfully colluding (shock!) to perpetuate the system. What I really liked about it was it takes all these ideas that many people have about our political system's dysfunction and examines them in the way you would study the performance of a given industry. 'WE NEED A BUSINESS MAN IN OFFICE!!!" The last 15 minutes or so the authors of the study get into solutions that they think would help to eliminate the grip that the parties have over the voting system; primaries, gerrymandering, access to data and so on. There are some good ideas in there, such as a ranked choice non-partisan voting system for primaries. This one in particular would make the idea that voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away a thing of the past.

    Anyhow, very much worth a listen.
    If you have a good ranked choice system, you can eliminate the need for primaries altogether. Just throw all the candidates into one pot - this prevents the problem that the current primaries pose of having a (generally) restricted and more extreme voter pool (party loyalists) picking a candidate who may not be all that popular among the larger populace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshk1025 View Post
    If you have a good ranked choice system, you can eliminate the need for primaries altogether. Just throw all the candidates into one pot - this prevents the problem that the current primaries pose of having a (generally) restricted and more extreme voter pool (party loyalists) picking a candidate who may not be all that popular among the larger populace.
    Their idea of ranked choice was interesting, although I'll need to have another listen to get why they wanted to keep primaries. Basically the idea was that the primaries would be open and non-partisan, and voters would make 4 selections ranked 1 through 4. If no candidate achieves 50% or more of the votes, the candidate who placed 4th would be eliminated from the election and their votes would be reallocated to each ballot's 2nd choice. This would continue until one candidate achieves 50% or more. I *think* that they had the primaries to narrow it down to the top 2 candidates and then run a general, but I don't remember exactly. That said, I believe you're right and you could institute this system determine an outright winner without the need for a general election. All that said, the whole findings portion is entirely subjective, one could agree or disagree with the best way to deal with the problems. Their ideas aren't necessarily right, but the fact finding portion of their study to me was spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Did you hear about the farmer who thought he was reasonably compensated for a reasonable amount of work? Me neither.

    Did you see that farmer driving the brand new Range Rover? Me too.
    I don't ever remember anyone in my county driving a range rover, I doubt many had/have actually seen one.

    I get it though, there are the mega farms/ranches that get pretty big subsidies and are kind of shady. There are ranchers who use gov't land to raise their cattle paying little to no lease payments. On the opposite side of the coin you have people claiming farm status to avoid property tax which do little to no actual food supply. Just remember though, there are some farms that only get a subsidy when there is a disaster of some scale which destroys their crops or herd. Almost as if they are "too big to fail" scenario. You don't want that land going barren and unproductive. The days of subsidies to prevent the actual growth of crops/animals like back in the 80's is pretty much gone. All the food that can be produced can be consumed these days.
    Like anything, there are abuses, no doubt. But like health care, putting a little at it now saves a tremendous amount down the road. If everyone had to pay the "right amount" for unsubsidized food, it would be kind of a regressive tax but not really a tax.

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    just got some stones removed for the wall!

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